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DJames View Profile |
PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Unfortunately, my wife and i noticed a new addition the other day. Talked to a girl that worked there, a friend of ours. It’s a Chinese water dragon, with a TERRIBLE case of mouth rot. It had been surrendered, and now they are trying to sell it. Heres the thing. First off, they should NOT be selling that. The manager doesnt even think its mouth rot. he said its normal. idiot doesnt know a DAMN THING! (excuse my language, i dont like the man) Also, our friend there told us that she had recently puked up all kinds of slimy crap. Were wanting to convince him to give us the dragon, or even buy it from them, but we dont have a CLUE how to take care of the mouth rot. it looks terrible! Heres the question. If i could get them to give it to us, would anyone have an interest in taking this dragon? We would be willing to ship it if someone would pay or even split the shipping cost, to someone that could care for it properly. Thats one reptile we dont have yet and dont know about... PLEASE someone, help us get this poor thing taken care of... It looks so terrible... ANYONE?! |
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| 05/26/08 02:23pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1747029 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Throwing up could be improper temps for digestion...88-95 F. Or parasites or worse.. Mouth rot can lead to respiratory infections if temps are kept below normal. And humidity needs to be 70-80% I know it is sad and deploreable ...I wish I could help ...you never said where your at ... CP |
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| 05/26/08 02:35pm |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1747053 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
"Alright, so theres this little petshop in my little town of waxahachie, tx. " Im about 30 mins south of Dallas, texas... Problem is, i dont have the money for the vet visit and meds right now. i just want to get this poor thing some help... |
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| 05/26/08 02:37pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1747056 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
What a wonderful soul you have. Have a good holiday if you still can |
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| 05/26/08 02:56pm |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1747075 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
We have 6 beardies total, know a lot more about them, thats why im looking for someone that knows cwds to get this one.... but heres my most recent...
But this is just the worst looking of our rescues. We also have a rescued cat, that a vet (lucky us, we have a dog/cat vet as a friend, so he checked the cat free), believes has a hairline fracture in a place that is not fixable unless we pay thousands of dollars for surgery. He said its also possibly a pinched nerve, and wait a week and see how hes doing... the cat already seems to be doing better though... just need help for the cwd...... ill try to get a pic today (were going to the petshop today), and maybe convince them to give it to me, that way if i can find someone to help, we can already have it... i dont know i just want to help the poor thing, but dont know anything about them... |
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| 05/26/08 03:01pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1747075 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Ask a student vet / tech to take a moment to go see the critter and volunteer some time. I recently went into a pet store and the owner tried to tell me that the iguana had an abcess on it’s cheek/gum because it had MBD ....I rolled my eyes and began to explain to the guy what was what ...and he then informed me that he was just caring for it for the true owner...OMG CP |
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| 05/26/08 03:02pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1747082 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Just birth deffects... insecticides...wow CP |
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| 05/26/08 03:05pm |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1747085 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 05/26/08 03:43pm |
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Yexalen View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1747126 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Sorry not too sure on other ideas but had to post something. I think it was Finners(???) who was good with this type of thing and what to do next.... not positive though. Eitehr way Im bumping the thread back to the top to hope you can get some help with this problem. Poor little dragon. :( |
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| 05/26/08 08:31pm |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: Yexalen In reference to Message Id: 1747450 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
i took a pic of her yesterday, ill try to post it later tonight... anyone got ideas? ive talked to the petshop, but i have not spoken to the manager about giving her to us... were gonna threaten to report them and see if they will give it to us... |
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| 05/27/08 02:49pm |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: Yexalen In reference to Message Id: 1747450 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
some sort of good news? I talked to a girl that works there (weve become pretty friendly with a lot of the girls that work there, being that were in there buying food for all our animals at least once a week (feeding 7 snakes, 6 beardies...) and they get to know us rather well...) And shes going to try to convince the manager to give it to us. Shes been doing her best to care for it days shes there. But she says its doing awful... Finners gave me some good info on things to do, besides the antibiotics, so hopefully we can get it and do our best to get it back to health, if thats possible at this point. One other thing we didnt initially notice though... Something is wrong with its eye. it almost looks like all around his eye has rotted out... Anyone know what we can do??? let me see if i can get the pic i took posted... its not great, taken with my cellphone, emailing to myself (on a work account), just to put it up... i need internet at home... but any suggestions or guesses on the eye thats oozing and he/she never opens? |
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| 05/27/08 08:55pm |
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Veruk View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1748551 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 05/27/08 08:59pm |
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Finners View Profile |
Message To: Veruk In reference to Message Id: 1748558 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 05/29/08 09:15am |
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Bcrump View Profile |
Message To: Finners In reference to Message Id: 1749954 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 06/05/08 02:01pm |
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Minya View Profile |
Message To: Bcrump In reference to Message Id: 1752622 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 06/05/08 02:06pm |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: Minya In reference to Message Id: 1752627 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
we have been working on his eyes, mostly with just water and qtips. gettin the CRUD off it. and he does try to open them. one opens, and has all kinds of crap over his eyeball. like layers of crud and . we do what we can to clean it off, but hes not a huge fan, obviously. now get this, it appears that he doesnt even HAVE an eye under his other lid. whne he tries to open it, you cant even see the eye. you see the crud and all, but it looks like there is not another eye.... not entirely sure. we have a filter in a cat litter box full of water, so its basically a mini-pool. he doesnt swim, obviously he cant see, but he will move back and forth from half in the water (we have a slate rock laid crooked where he can get in and out), and out to a log next to it, and back in... so hes moving around, and was puffed up tonight... a beautiful dark pinkish red has started to come out on his throat.. he wont eat still, but we gave him some jumpstart, and he took it alright. weve done what we can on his mouth thus far, just continuing to do it cuz its looking great... ok let me try and get some pix on. and maybe yall can help me from there... |
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| 06/15/08 12:40am |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1761285 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
This one is the enclosure he was in at the pet shop -- little bitty with NO WATER for him to get in. idiots didnt realize WATER DRAGON meant he needed WATER. were trying to shut them down...
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| 06/15/08 12:48am |
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Mama42 View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1761285 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 06/15/08 12:53am |
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ReptiGal94 View Profile |
Message To: Mama42 In reference to Message Id: 1761299 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Anyway,you could try the turtle drops and see if they work.Otherwise it sounds like he’s in good hands with you.I hope you can help him. |
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| 06/15/08 02:16am |
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Finners View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1761295 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Good for you for taking him in and helping him get better. He must have a will to live or i’m guessing he would have died before now. Can’t wait to see updated pictures of him. Keep it up. :) |
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| 06/15/08 08:58am |
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Lelareed4 View Profile |
Message To: Finners In reference to Message Id: 1761447 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 06/15/08 12:41pm |
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Clouddancer22 View Profile |
Message To: Lelareed4 In reference to Message Id: 1761646 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 06/15/08 02:37pm |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: Clouddancer22 In reference to Message Id: 1761734 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
he tried to open his eyes last night when we were doctoring him... yeah, one of them looks like it doesnt have an eye, but we were lookin hard last night, and you can tell its just behind all kinds of stuff. well definitely try the eye drops. he sure has some fight in him though. he lets us do his eyes with no problem, but he hates his mouth being messed with. were afraid its hurting him. :-( but he doesnt tail whip us, just pulls away and runs, basically. so were excited hes got some strength to him. i took some updated pix last night, and you can see a little difference in him, ill try to post them on later today, i go into work here shortly, gotta go get some nicotine before i go in! lol. ill do it on my lunch around noon probably. or my break, or my other break... or after work... either way. ill get them on later. thanks for your thoughts and prayers, ill continue to keep yall updated!! oh and we forgot to tell yall-- hes been named. KAHN. (or was it khan?? ...i dont remember...) |
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| 06/16/08 08:57am |
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Bcrump View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1762512 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
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| 06/16/08 10:28am |
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Minya View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1762512 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
to feed him, get some organic baby food. the little jars are around 50 cents. i have had success with a mixture of veggies/turkey mixed with Odwala micronutrient drink. i found the odwala where the veggies and fruit are in the food store. *** http://www.odwalla.com/Products.jsp *** here is the link to find it in your area. i mix the veggi/turkey baby food with a little bit of the juice so that its still thick and feed it to my lizards. the micronutrient drink is chock full of veggies and fruit. they also have a high protein drink. this way you will get loads of nutrition into him. you will have to use the syringe to administer. i am pleasantly shocked by how much this mixture improved my lizards general health and their skin after only one feeding. (i gave it to jing jing who is having a really nasty shed and is so miserable she won’t eat - the next day she was bright and lively; the shed that clogs up her nostrils even came out 2-days later! i’m giving it to her every other day, but in your case you should do it daily even if he does start eating on his own). this is my sweet baby - Ting Ting. the shelter sent me these pictures to see if i would really adopt him. all that stuff in his mouth is dead bone. he doesn’t have teeth, the mouth rot was so bad it just melted everything. i have some chlorohexaine solution that i use to clean out his mouth everyday. i put silvasulfadine around the gum line - its an antibiotic cream. neosporin messes up their GI system.
i don’t know what to say about the eyes except what your doing is okay, but anitibiotic eye drops would be best. that other eye that you thought was missing may have to be excised. this is just me, but i would go see the vet right away and explain the situation of your finances to see if some sort of payment option can be made or if you tell them you got him from the pet store like that (there are a number of consumer rights and animal rights issues that have been violated by selling an animal in that condition) i think he’s in good hands now:-) |
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| 06/16/08 10:47am |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: Minya In reference to Message Id: 1762582 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Yes do add a small amount of Calicium Carbonate and mix with the slurry / food in the syringe. Note* I have made batches for refrigeration and I see the calcium turns the slurry black if kept over 24 hrs. Therefore make the smallest batch and do not re-use. Or at least keep seperate until needed. Many items in baby food jars are suitable for feeding ...fruits, make a great treat, are not hi in calcium but some of the squash’s and and vegtable items are loaded ....look at the ingridients label. Calcium every other day ...there are two types of calcium , one with d-3 and one without (pure) Please make sure the calcium you purchase has NO phosphorus (phosphorus free) If you have a UVB light , hopefully a tube , and not a compact , do not use Calcium with D-3. If you have no uvb light Use Calcium with D-3 If you use calcium with d-3 do not expose to natural sunlight or UVB rays from a tube/bulb. I have used the free syringe available at any pharmacy just for the asking...
I also use a soft tooth brush to aid in cleaning my lizards mouth ....if I have too I wrap in a towel and suspend all movement. Very gently and lovingly I will brush the lips and eventually I can get to some inner gum and teeth.... Betadyne solution mixed down with water is great for wounds and infections ...however I do not know if it is OK to use orally. For the eyes a Walmart brand SALINE solution works great I hope you are successful Best Regards CP |
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| 06/16/08 03:46pm |
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Van_jen2005 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1762830 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Hopefully he is doing better.........If not couldnt we all pitch in and send a little bit of money to the vet!? |
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| 06/16/08 04:07pm |
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DJames View Profile |
Message To: Van_jen2005 In reference to Message Id: 1762865 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
and to clarify, the petshop did not sell the animal to us. although they had him on the floor to sell initially, we are well known in the petshop and after harrassing them for about a month about him, they finally just gave him to us because they were going to just let him die. luckily, a few girls in the petshop were hand feeding him crickets every day or two, because they didnt know what else to do. he would eat them when they offered them by hand, but since he was unable to open his eyes, thats the only way he was eating, and only when one of the two girls were there (which by the way, were terrified of crickets and bugs, but did it for him...) like i said, ill call the vet and see if we can get something worked out, i know vet visits arent cheap with reptiles, im just hoping theyll help us out somehow... being that we dont know what else to do and adopted him without even knowing a lot, just relying on yall, because we realized how bad he was and nobody else would do it... sorry guys, britt never got back on today.. must have been busy at lunch. i know work is terrible busy for us both right now (we work at a call center, so were on the phones all day, our breaks are barely breaks lol)... anyways, thanks again for all the info guys, well see what we can do.. also-- is regular saline solution better than the turtle eye drops?! thanks SOOOO much guys... were just a couple kids who love our kids lol. we really appreciate the experience... you have no idea. |
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| 06/16/08 06:02pm |
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Cphill58 View Profile |
Message To: DJames In reference to Message Id: 1763020 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
Also call the vet/s and see if they will work something out ....trade a sunday working in the kennels / cleaning the floors / volunteer / let them know that you are desperate and need serious help . Phone advise from them is free....they are usually willing to give it . Call more than 3. Contact a local college that offers vetinanry classes and get a student to assist ...challenge or beg them to find a morsel of compassion ....they are probably looking forward to finding someone like you for a research paper or thesis. Just my 2 cents CP |
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| 06/16/08 07:30pm |
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Mama42 View Profile |
Message To: Cphill58 In reference to Message Id: 1763101 PLEASE help!!! Mouth Rot!!!
your just trying to clear the eyes right? if so, id go with the saline, as you can use it for other things as well and on other pets or whatev...but, still try to get an appointment when you can, just in case its a bad infection and you need actual meds. gl... |
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