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Froogies View Profile |
Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/19/09 07:16pm |
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Mbwrink View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086067 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/19/09 09:05pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Mbwrink In reference to Message Id: 2086127 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Quote: even if you kept your room at an ambient temperature of 80-85 degrees F you would still have trouble keeping a thermal gradient of 100F at the hot end with a basking spot of 120-130F and 80F at the cool end.
why? I have to disagree.... it’s not hard to maintain temps in an open or a closed top as long as you know what you are doing and have the right equipment. I keep my room at 73-75* I have absolutely no problems maintaining stable temps throughout my open top enclosures. |
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| 10/20/09 07:06am |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086067 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Quote: also can a 5.5" ceramic lamp hold a 125watt mercury vapor bulb
I would look into a 10" dome. main reasons being the small domes heat up and may cause premature bulb failure, they are not usually rated higher than 100 watt. you want to use a dome that is rated higher than the bulb you want to run. Quote: i wana put tile for the flooring is that ok?
yes, I would use a natural slate tile. some tiles can burn the uro or be very slippery. Quote: are they apogee stable?
what? never seen one Quote: how many hides do they need?
as many as you can provide. it’s best to have at least 3 in different heat zones. it’s a good idea to give the uro as much choice as possible. I am amazed many people only proviode one hide. choice is VERY important especially for a young or newly aqcuired uro,. Quote: are they alowed to roam a safe backyard like a tortiose? i
I have never seen a "safe" backyard.... I would have to say no to roaming a backyard. it would cause stress Quote: i have lots of vitamins and calcium for my leo do i use that every day?
no, a varried diet is much more important than over supplementing. supplements do have a place but very infrequently if at all. |
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| 10/20/09 07:23am |
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Froogies View Profile |
Message To: UROKEEPER In reference to Message Id: 2086277 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 10:54am |
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Sugar Snap Pea View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086329 Sorry for all they questions... but..
I have two new CHEs, 100W and 60W, haven’t had to use them yet as winter hasn’t gotten around and our ambient room temps and in his tank are around 70F at night till now. But the latest advice I got on CHEs is that 100W can put out some serious heat, and I’m mostly using them for night time, so I would still want to keep it around 70F at night in winter, but 100W is no guarantee that is the right wattage for a tank even if it’s 6 x 2 x 2. Just gotta go with the air and temp flow and figure out which works better. |
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| 10/20/09 01:23pm |
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Froogies View Profile |
Message To: Sugar Snap Pea In reference to Message Id: 2086371 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 02:54pm |
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Sugar Snap Pea View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086400 Sorry for all they questions... but..
A CHE is a ceramic heat emitter, works good at night so there is no light, just heat! You can use it as a supplement heat source during the day, but the size of tank and your air/temps need to be taken into consideration too. CHEs are good, just got to use them wisely! |
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| 10/20/09 03:06pm |
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Sugar Snap Pea View Profile |
Message To: Sugar Snap Pea In reference to Message Id: 2086410 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 03:22pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086400 Sorry for all they questions... but..
If you plan to do it, then plan to do it correctly. You will need a digital thermometer and also an infrared temp gun to check temps. There are no magic numbers on what size bulbs or heat emitters . Trial and error is the only way with proper temp reading devices. You said your not going cheap but your looking at 49 dollar uro’s and 39 dollar enclosures ? If you really want a uro , do it right from the start of the uro will suffer because of it. No, they can not be put in a backyard like a tortoise. For one, they are very fast. Two , birds will eat them in a second. Three it will stress them out to no end. It’s a uro, not a tortoise. The only way to keep them in the yard is with a completely covered enclosure to keep all animals out.And even then I wouldn’t suggest it. No uro will love you , if you want something to hold and cuddle with get a kitten. Uro’s will merely tolerate you at best and hate you at worst. |
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| 10/20/09 05:12pm |
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Froogies View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2086483 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Quote: No uro will love you , if you want something to hold and cuddle with get a kitten. Uro’s will merely tolerate you at best and hate you at worst.
listen k? i am not new to lizards! i am no child either. i know what i am doing and i am on here for 1 reason and 1 reason only, to learn in a safe place about animals. i dont see why some of you people have to be rude when all i am doing is learning. please accept that not all people are "lizard gods" and you are the only person in the world who has knowledge. Quote: If you plan to do it, then plan to do it correctly.
really? i know i have to do it right otherwise why would i be asking intelligent people on here for help?? i mean really guys, you have to understand not everyone is going to get it the first time. Doug the webmaster made this place for learning. not beating someone down for being unclear. if you have been helping me i give you love and thanks for your pactience and teaching me. And p.s. i do have a kitten already... hummmf. so i do not try to offend anyone of you here i just wana make it clear all i want to do is learn.... Thank you for your time, Sydney |
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| 10/20/09 05:37pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086498 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 06:30pm |
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Froogies View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2086528 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Quote: i was wondering if they can be housed in the apogee reptariums with some wood on the side to hold heat Quote: my first post. |
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| 10/20/09 06:43pm |
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Froogies View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086538 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 06:59pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086550 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 08:28pm |
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Froogies View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2086597 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 08:53pm |
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Mbwrink View Profile |
Message To: UROKEEPER In reference to Message Id: 2086270 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 09:05pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2086617 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/20/09 10:19pm |
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Froogies View Profile |
Message To: Jbreddawg In reference to Message Id: 2086670 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/21/09 05:50pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2087102 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Quote: i know plenty of people who use them for uros and the are perfectly happy with them.
Yes, I’m sure you do. Have at it. What do I know . |
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| 10/21/09 10:48pm |
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Jbreddawg View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2087102 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Quote: i mean what ever, just came here to learn.... :|
Then why do you challenge every bit of advice that has been given to you ? If you know all these people who keep uro’s in screened cages then go ask them to help you out. |
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| 10/21/09 10:55pm |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Mbwrink In reference to Message Id: 2086626 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/22/09 08:20am |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: Sugar Snap Pea In reference to Message Id: 2086418 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Quote: when they are heated up they tend to be more fragile.
thats a new one lol |
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| 10/22/09 08:22am |
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UROKEEPER View Profile |
Message To: UROKEEPER In reference to Message Id: 2087399 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/22/09 08:23am |
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Sugar Snap Pea View Profile |
Message To: UROKEEPER In reference to Message Id: 2087400 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Froogies, from reading the latest replies... if you are gonna add wood, glass to the inside of the mesh screens, why not just go without the mesh? Mesh is usually at the top of the tank, for ventilation and lighting and far away from uro claws. One of the things I learnt from the cats I grew up with was that once in a while, they would get their claws trapped in fabric like curtain, or on a tree branch, even a rock in the garden. And that’s with retractable claws. If you look in the cat forum... someone just weeped over a cat who went missing and was found a week later dead hanging from a fence, claws and foot trapped in the space between the planks. Not good. |
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| 10/22/09 12:47pm |
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Datsunissan28 View Profile |
Message To: Froogies In reference to Message Id: 2087102 Sorry for all they questions... but..
Quote: Froogies
never have i heard of that. i know plenty of people who use them for uros and the are perfectly happy with them. i think you are over reacating. so what would you use then? an ivisible force feild? cause glass can over heat and block uv rays, wood can decompose and has no visability, screen can "rip there claws out" and what am i guna give them? i mean what ever, just came here to learn.... :| Going by this I’m assuming you’re making the top the open area that will have the screen exposed. Going by just that, then yes a screen lid or top would be fine and is used by many people here. However, this Quote: Froogies on 10/20/09 at 08:53PM
well cause it is relativly cheap and the wood would go on 5 sides and the front will be open. makes me think that the top would be solid and the front would be screened in which I could definitely see a Uro getting its nails caught it. My Uro can start to scale walls that are covered with grout so I’m sure he would do the same with screen. I’m also curious on how you were planning on mounting the lights on the inside with a solid top. This is the how I did it, but I’ve got a decent amount of woodworking and electrical experience. Also as others have said with how much wood you will be using you might as well not have the apogee reptarium even if you still use screening. I’m just thinking this would be cheaper and better for you in the long run. Also you might want to look at my post about different types of wood products Link Good luck with building your enclosure. Personally that is one of my favorite parts of owning a reptile. |
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| 10/22/09 06:36pm |
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Froogies View Profile |
Message To: Datsunissan28 In reference to Message Id: 2087588 Sorry for all they questions... but..
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| 10/22/09 08:55pm |
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