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Froggin View Profile |
Pictures of Skip
Skip loves to munchy!!! Skip is not too sure about the camera yet. But he is definetly curious!!! This is Lucky, my lethargic uro. |
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| 08/12/08 01:32pm |
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Froggin View Profile |
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| 08/12/08 01:33pm |
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Rtl402 View Profile |
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| 08/12/08 02:16pm |
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Froggin View Profile |
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| 08/12/08 10:05pm |
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Froggin View Profile |
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This is Skippers
Skippers munching
He is not to sure about the camera yet...
He is getting curious
And here is a picture of Lucky...Who unfortunatly was not so lucky...I found him dead when I woke up this morning. :( I figured it was coming. I had to force feed him and stuff...My local vet is gonna do an autopsy and find out why he died.
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| 08/12/08 10:12pm |
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Rsharp87 View Profile |
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| 08/12/08 10:26pm |
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| 08/12/08 10:51pm |
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Rsharp87 View Profile |
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| 08/12/08 11:37pm |
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Sahells Mom View Profile |
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| 08/13/08 07:32am |
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Uro_fan View Profile |
Message To: Froggin In reference to Message Id: 1828990 Pictures of Skip
Quote: Who unfortunatly was not so lucky...I found him dead when I woke up this morning. :( I figured it was coming. I had to force feed him and stuff
I am curious, what makes you think that you are qualified to force feed uromastyx when you are not even familiar with the term emaciated? It is very possible that the demise of this uromastyx came about due to an improper force-feeding or trauma/shock from forcing a food substance into this frail emaciated animal. Do you even know where the glottis is and do you have the correct equipment to properly force feed? I am still trying to figure out if you are for real or not. You come here posting about working at a pet store and that you know a lot about reptiles and want to be a herpetologist. Your next thread is that you want to post some ‘really cute photos’ of your uros and you end up posting several photos of two thin, unhealthy uromastyx informing us that ‘lucky’ wasn’t so lucky and is already dead. You supposedly know all about reptiles but order these animals from a place that sells this quality of animal? You post that you want help to ‘fix’ the animals yourself rather than investing money in a vet and then turn around and inform everyone that your vet is doing a necropsy? FYI: It would probably have been less expensive to have a vet check on this animal including the cost of any necessary prescriptions than to have an actual necropsy done. My guess is that no one will ever see a necropsy report but you will come back telling us about some fatal condition (virus, impaction…) to try to justify that you did absolutely nothing wrong with this animal. You will find that members on this forum are not all about ‘cute photos’, they are about making sure that uromastyx are taken care of properly including proper husbandry and medical care. Creating one post about the health condition of these animals and the next two threads about how to post cute photos rather than concentrating on the severity of the health issue your animal was dealing with before it died is just down right irresponsible and shows a lack of understanding of basic husbandry and care. I would suggest you take the geyri to a qualified vet and let that individual determine the health and administer any fluids or medications that he/she deems necessary. |
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| 08/13/08 07:38am |
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Shaunauro View Profile |
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| 08/13/08 07:59am |
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Yuromastic View Profile |
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Tim |
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| 08/13/08 08:18am |
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Froggin View Profile |
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| 08/13/08 10:38am |
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Uro_fan View Profile |
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Quote: ”Look I am not doing anything wrong.”
How about ordering uromastyx from someone that sells thin unhealthy animals? How about not having the funds set aside beforehand to take care of any emergency issues like an immediate vet appointment? How about not taking this animal (the dead one) to a vet immediately for care? Quote: ”He is the one that showed me what to do when force feeding. I only force fed twice. Its not like I did it a million times. He showed me and then watched me do it and told me I was doing it right. “
It only takes doing it once improperly froggin. When did your vet instruct you on this and what type of animal did he use to demonstrate? What did you use for equipment? Do you know where the glottis is located in uromastyx? Quote: ”So If I am doing anything wrong I want to know.”
Go back and read the first sentence of your last post. Here let me remind you: “Look I am not doing anything wrong.” On one hand, you say you want advice and on the other, you immediately cry foul saying you are doing nothing wrong. Quote: ”When I filled out the questionaire I only had a few problems”
And a dead uromastyx 3 days later. Who said that you only had a few problems? Only a few problems were pointed out this does not mean that others do not exist. Temperatures are a major issue but even smaller ones like using over the counter antibiotic products without diagnosis is also not a very smart thing to do with an already stressed animal. Quote: ” So besides a vet visit (which is already scheduled) what do I have to do????”
Why don’t you start by posting a photo of your entire 72x24x30 setup. I am a little confused on the timeline of the death of your uromastyx. I realize the time on the forums may be off by several hours but I find it interesting that you attempted to post photos of your uromastyx including Lucky with no mention of his death. Later the same day you mention that you found lucky dead early in the morning. I just found it interesting that you didn’t mention Lucky’s death the first time and how quickly you were able to get the body to your vet. Just curious, how much is your vet charging you for the necropsy? |
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| 08/13/08 11:55am |
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Froggin View Profile |
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Quote: I just found it interesting that you didn’t mention Lucky’s death the first time and how quickly you were able to get the body to your vet. What do you mean by how quickly I was able to get him to the vet? It takes 10minutes to drive to the vet like 5 minutes to fill out the paper work...Uh duh It doesnt take long. What kind of comment was that????? |
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| 08/13/08 01:29pm |
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Sahells Mom View Profile |
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| 08/13/08 01:52pm |
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Uro_fan View Profile |
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Quote: ”What kind of comment was that?????”
The comment had everything to do with the believability/credibility of your statements. Red flag one: Supposedly, you saw a vet the day you got the uromastyx and you come to the forum the following day to say you ‘think’ there is something wrong with your uromastyx and ask for advice on this. Did you think of asking the vet the day before if he/she saw reason for concern? If so, why didn’t you post your vets opinion on the health of your uromastyx? Red flag two: Your post states that you want help from the forum so that you can treat the animal and save money on a vet visit. Seems like a strange comment to make considering you supposedly just saw the vet the day before. Red flag three: You tell us now that the vet showed you how to force feed your uromastyx the day you got it and the two of you force fed the animal. Seems a little odd that the day after the double force feeding you make the statement that if the animal doesn’t eat soon, it will need to see a vet. Seems a little strange that your vet would force feed an extremely lethargic emaciated animal rather than starting with fluid therapy. Red flag four: You state that Dr schulmeister showed you how to feed the uromastyx the day you got it and then post the next day that the animal hasn’t seen a vet yet. Is Dr Schulmeister a podiatrist? I have difficulty with any post that has implausible statements and/or answers and I saw red flags with yours almost immediately. I suggest you post with accurate truthful answers and statements and focus less on trying to post cute photos. |
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| 08/13/08 02:55pm |
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Shaunauro View Profile |
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| 08/13/08 06:20pm |
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Doublemom View Profile |
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I find it totally pathetic that pet stores think it’s okay to order in wild caught animals and receive them when they are that far gone, knowing full well that some of the animals won’t make it. It’s like they’re expendable, something that can be tossed in the trash if it doesn’t work out, not a LIVE animal that can feel pain and stress and starvation. Ugh... makes me want to go in a corner and cry. Andi |
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| 08/13/08 07:34pm |
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Froggin View Profile |
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| 08/13/08 10:11pm |
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Uro_fan View Profile |
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Quote: Uro Fan - I think you should lay off Froggin a little Some people aren’t as literal with their statements as you and need a little leeway. Wea re all human afterall, not machines
There is a difference between being literal and outright lying shaunauro and it doesn’t take a machine to tell the truth. Even if we overlook the fact that froggin came here boasting about working in a pet store, knowing a lot about reptiles, ’ordering’ uromastyx from a vendor he/she knows nothing about or that had provided inferior animals to the store before, creating more threads about posting cute pictures than the dying animal in their care, posting with a nonchalant attitude that he/she ‘figured the death was coming’ but didn’t bother to seek medical attention for the five days he/she was shooting cute photos of the dying animal…even if I overlook all of this- I will not look past the lying. Froggin, if you have made any of the changes you say you have that is terrific but I for one have difficulty believing anything you say due to the posts that I have so far seen from you. If you want to be believed, start telling the truth. Posting a photo of your complete setup and being honest about what is or is not taking place is in your best interest when it comes to receiving help from credible members of this forum. |
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| 08/13/08 10:35pm |
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Froggin View Profile |
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| 08/13/08 10:52pm |
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Uro_fan View Profile |
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Quote: ” I find it totally pathetic that pet stores think it’s okay to order in wild caught animals and receive them when they are that far gone, knowing full well that some of the animals won’t make it.”
And even more frustrating is the pet store employee that ordered these animals is the one posting cute photos on this forum and lying about taking it to the vet while it laid around for five days before dying. But hey, if you weave a few ‘I am trying’ and fibs in with your posts, all will be overlooked and you will gain a few more forum friends while you go back to bragging about your pet store job, knowledge of reptiles, and ordering more sick reptiles for the pet store. Although…. after the last two posts by this member, I am beginning to think that they may have been fibbing about being in a position of authority to order these sick animals for the pet store. The posts appear to be coming from a rather young person so maybe they didn’t actually order these animals like they earlier boasted. Froggin The reference to the five days was the length of time you had the animal before it died while posting a couple times asking how to post photos of the dying animal. It was about stating you knew that the uro was going to die and not getting it to a vet in those five days, and then contradicting yourself and posting that you took it to a vet the day before you posted saying it had never been to a vet. Your last post was entirely focused on you and the one before that wasn’t much different with the use of the word ‘I’ twenty two times in one paragraph. This isn’t about you. |
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| 08/13/08 11:32pm |
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Shaunauro View Profile |
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| 08/14/08 05:55am |
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Froggin View Profile |
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| 08/14/08 11:01am |
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Shaunauro View Profile |
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| 08/14/08 11:17am |
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Rtl402 View Profile |
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They will dig under the slate and it can fall on them, make sure you have it secures with pavers or something that cannot be dug under. You also could remove about half of that sand, it only needs to be like 2" thick. Also, UVB light.... if it is going through the screen top, only about 50% or less is actually making it through, you can cut a hold if needed, but the UVB needs to be unblocked 100% between the bulb and the Uro. |
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| 08/14/08 11:48am |
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Froggin View Profile |
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| 08/14/08 12:07pm |
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Froggin View Profile |
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| 08/14/08 12:12pm |
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Rtl402 View Profile |
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tempgun .com offers a reasonable price on different models... cheapest is very reasonable and works great.. i have it and love it |
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| 08/14/08 12:42pm |
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