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 #824267


Lilperez
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 Housing/bedding

what type of housing/bedding can i put in my emperoís terrarium.



06/07/06  10:58pm

 #824385


Meee
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 824267


 Housing/bedding

dirt or peat moss. you want a good 5 inches so it can dig.



06/08/06  12:23am

 #825163


Metz
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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 824385


 Housing/bedding

I would suggest using peat moss. Emps require high humidity and unlike many types of substrate that break down rather quickly and are prone to mold, peat is a lot more resistant to mold and does not deteriate as quickly. Chemical and fertilizer free potting soils work also, however, they tend to turn to mud when they get wet and thus, make burrowing more difficult.



06/08/06  04:23pm

 #825625


Lilperez
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 825163


 Housing/bedding

Metz so how does this peat moss look.Do you think i can use a type of desert sand or sugarsand.Do you think i can put thing so my Emps can climb.



06/08/06  09:38pm

 #825931


Metz
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 825625


 Housing/bedding

NO, you can not use sand. P. imperator are NOT desert scorpions, they are rainforest scorpions and NO, do not put things in for them to climb on. They are not bark scorpions, they are burrowers and putting things in for them to climb on will not only be a waste of time but can be dangerous to the scorpion in the event that they fall because they are quite clumsy and not good climbers.



06/09/06  01:17am

 #850997


Lilperez
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 825931


 Housing/bedding

Metz i put a type of sand called All Natural Reptilite Calcium Substrate (100% edible and easily digestible) and Rupti Bark in. The All Natural Reptilite is good for the crickets because it has calcium and wonít harm the body of the emp. Itís friendly to the scales, carapace, and digestive tract.The bark helps absorb and retain moisture more rapidly.



06/25/06  05:33pm

 #851836


Meee
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 850997


 Housing/bedding

still no, emps cant dig in it and it doesnt hold humidity, when was the last time you saw sand in the rain forest?



06/26/06  02:03am

 #851868


Alan Johnson
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 850997


 Housing/bedding

Lilperez
I can only reiterate wot Metz said NO SAND as P.Imperators are rain forest dwellers that like to burrow and any loose sandy substrata apart from not holding moisture will just collapse round them or worse still trap them under it when it does cave in, it is of course your own choice as to how you house your animals but from wot i have read you are asking for info on your other posting for info on breeding them when you cant get this simple thing right(substrata)might i suggest you do a bit off research on them and get there housing requirements right first as this is a basic requirement for them to breed .
AJ
PS As for it not being harmful to there digestive tracts ,This my friend is a marketing ploy used by the company that produces it , over a period off time this will kill them by impacting inside there gut .
So pleas for the sake off your scorpions read/research on this and change that SAND



06/26/06  02:33am

 #852526


Lilperez
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  Message To: Alan Johnson   In reference to Message Id: 851868


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So do you think i should use coconut bark.



06/26/06  03:45pm

 #853054


Meee
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 852526


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PEAT MOSS!!!! we keep telling you that, that is the only answer you will get.



06/26/06  08:22pm

 #855427


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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 853054


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Quote:

that is the only answer you will get.

Actually, coconut would be fine. It works just as well as peat moss. I use both, but Iíve found the peat moss to be cheaper in most instances. The coconut should hold a burrow just as well as peat moss.



06/28/06  12:11am

 #855477


Meee
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  Message To: Alter_Bridge_Fan   In reference to Message Id: 855427


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yes but in my experience, it clumps together and yes, is more expensive. lilperez, just buy the peat moss, not special sand.



06/28/06  12:49am

 #855604


Metz
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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 855477


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Iím going to say this once and Iím going to be blunt and probably rude as well seeing as how you donít seem to get it.
NO DAMN SAND! It doesnít matter if itís magical pink popcorn producing sand that will make itís own damn crickets out of thin air! NO DAMN SAND!!!! Plus you DONíT want your crickets LIVING and EATING in your scorpion container.
Scorpions are NOT reptiles...period..PERIOD...what is good for a reptile does NOT make it good for an invertebrate...by the way, that is NOT a good reptile substrate any experienced reptile owner would know that and would know that it causes impaction in some reptiles.
Anyway, back to the point.
Rainforest means one thing and it does not mean sand. If you are not going to use the advice given, donít ask our advice. What the hell is so difficult about peat moss?
Can you use cocnut fiber, yes, you can, however, it molds easily, deteriates more rapidly and generally just sucks in high humidity climates such as imps NEED.
Get some peat moss...geez.



06/28/06  03:28am

 #856477


Meee
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 855604


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but what about magic popcorn and cricket producing sand that also makes ice cream?



06/28/06  05:04pm

 #860378


Metz
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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 856477


 Housing/bedding

Thatís only good for bark scorpions and L.Q....but you really have to watch it though, some brands have a high icecream to popcorn ratio and the scorpions tend to get their telsonís all gooey...especially on Friday nights.



06/30/06  04:41pm

 #860397


Meee
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 860378


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darn. well this brand says its icecream to popcorn ratio is 20.5:73892759827359853752987359827598. is that good?



06/30/06  04:51pm

 #860942


Metz
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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 860397


 Housing/bedding

Depends...do you have a bark or LQ?



06/30/06  11:07pm

 #862287


Meee
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 860942


 Housing/bedding

lq



07/01/06  10:35pm

 #868680


Lilperez
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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 855477


 Housing/bedding

meee i already got rainforest dirt in place of the sand. (It is just like coconut bark). The day i put it in she had burrowed in it. So is that OK



07/05/06  10:12pm

 #868717


Lilperez
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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 862287


 Housing/bedding

Yo metz/meee you to need to chill out bra. All iím hear is for advice. I have been looking for peat moss the day Metz told me to use it but I canít find it.



07/05/06  10:32pm

 #869051


Meee
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 868717


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o, ok, thats different. if you actually were looking for it sorry for anything you found to be offensive. we (or at least i) assumed you werent taking our advice. you can find it at garden places like homedepot.



07/06/06  01:42am

 #870453


Metz
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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 869051


 Housing/bedding

Ditto what Meee said. Peat moss can be found at Wal-Mart, K-mart, any garden center like Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Itís very easy to find....usually.



07/06/06  09:59pm

 #870669


Lilperez
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 870453


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yo I thought it was only at pet stores.



07/06/06  11:40pm

 #870679


Meee
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 870669


 Housing/bedding

its ok, your just learning.



07/06/06  11:46pm

 #870689


Metz
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  Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 870679


 Housing/bedding

Actuallly pet stores usually donít sell peat moss.



07/06/06  11:51pm

 #870732


Lilperez
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 870689


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I went to the pet stores to pick up pinkies and some peat moss but they never heard of peat moss.



07/07/06  12:13am

 #870770


Metz
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 870732


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LMAO that would figure...ahh the intelligence of pet store employees.



07/07/06  12:42am

 #870781


Lilperez
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 870770


 Housing/bedding

Foreal they kind of just want to sell you stuff.Like they con me in buying that sand.



07/07/06  12:49am

 #870873


Metz
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  Message To: Lilperez   In reference to Message Id: 870781


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Oh yeah...thatís their job. The more they sell the bigger their bonuses are. Hell, theyíd sell ya "alien" dirt from Roswell if they could.



07/07/06  02:02am

 #871358


Lilperez
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  Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 870873


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Metz they tried to sell me some dead Emps. Well they looked like they wear dead because they been at the same spot for about a couple of days.



07/07/06  01:00pm
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