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Koi
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Glass tank, how many gallons should it be.
Iíve been reading this forum and Iím really interested with Blood pythons(especially there girth!).
I would like 2 move up in my level of snake keeping by keeping one of these(I do have experience with pythons,Ball pythons).



06/16/06  12:32am

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  Message To: Koi   In reference to Message Id: 835389


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Depending on the size of an animal, adults should have something that is at least 4 ft or so in length, with 2.5 to 3 ft for depth, room for them to curl up and lay out, and should be room for something they can soak in, they do like to soak, especially in sheds.

Im not fond of glass enclosures anyhoo, screen tops can be such a pain, from animals rubbing their snouts, and for bloods and short tails which require their humidity and temps to stay proper, maintaining things like that with a screen lid in a glass enclosure, not always the easiest things to do.

Then again nothing here is in a glass tank other than some beardies now :)

-Amelia
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06/16/06  08:03am

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  Message To: ES_Tropicals   In reference to Message Id: 835562


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yes I agree good points Amelia. My biggest blood over 5ft, is in a 6ft long custom built tank that is about 2 1/2 feet high by 3 feet depth. And they do love to soak so a large container with fresh water is a must as they will lie in it for long periods sometimes.

My tank is made of 8mm thick pvc and the doors are 6mm perspex there is no glass at all, I use newspaper as substrate as it is far easier to keep clean.

Humidity and temp is more important for these animals than some and should be of primary importance to maintaining their health. You need to have hides in both the cool and hot ends of the tank as they do like to move around sometimes although not as much as Balls or Burmese for example.

Generally they are lazyish animals that are happy to stay in one area for most of the time.



06/17/06  06:04am

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  Message To: Snakey68   In reference to Message Id: 836829


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Sooooooooooo Sorry, I forgot about this post. Well I havenít got a Blood but Im may get one in Nov or Jan hopefully! There just awesome and I love the Color!!! I plan to build a cage just as you said, Im going to put pondliner in it for protection, is that ok?



09/22/06  11:40pm

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  Message To: Koi   In reference to Message Id: 993615


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How would you use pond liner? Just use a sterilite tub with holes for ventialation and then move up to a big Animal Plastics enclosure when it gets older.



09/23/06  12:59pm

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  Message To: Chris78   In reference to Message Id: 994057


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I was going to use the Pond Liner to water proof the cage, Iíll either buy a large cage or build one.
Which ever works better. How big of a tub will work,is 40Quarts good? Whats yours in?



09/23/06  06:30pm

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  Message To: Koi   In reference to Message Id: 994429


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Mines in an Animal Plastics cage. They run about $400 shipped. Generally itís better to measure in feet and inches then in quarts for snakes. For example, you could have a 40qt tub thatís all height. You wanna go about 1-2ft long, about 1ft wide, and the height doesnít matter aslong as itís not 3ft or 2inches or anything like that.



09/23/06  07:47pm

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  Message To: Chris78   In reference to Message Id: 994506


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That good, I know where to get the perfect tub just like that!
Im not sure about the cage, Buy the time it needs a cage like that will be late next year right?
If so I can ask for it for Christmas!



09/23/06  10:07pm

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  Message To: Koi   In reference to Message Id: 994708


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If youíre that concerned about costs, then maybe you shouldnít get one right now.
Itís expensive.
Thermostats- Good ones run around $100 shipped.
Heatmats- $45 or if you go flexwatt it depends on size.
Snake - Well Iíve seen everywhere from about 90-350$ But you can add about $50 for shipping. Most things in a petshop are going to be in terrible condition.
Thermometer/Hydrometer - A good digital one is about $15-$30, Donít cheap out bloods are unforgiving, you need to know exact temps and humidity.
Water dish/ Hides - Can be free or cheap if youíre going utilitarian, but if youíre going to go out to the local pet shop they can cost quite a bit.
Full grown animal plastics cage- $400 shipped
You could go with a huge tub instead of a big melamine cage, but itíll be a pain to keep humidity and heat up while keep good ventilation.

Itís Harsh, but itís true.



09/23/06  11:27pm

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  Message To: Chris78   In reference to Message Id: 994807


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Sorry, forgot to add something.

Take all that with a grain of salt as prices can vary greatly. I just wanted to emphasize what a big responsibility and investment it is.



09/23/06  11:29pm

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  Message To: Chris78   In reference to Message Id: 994808


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Well I have a spare Thermostat in my room, I also have a few Thermometer/Hydrometers to.
As for the Snake Im getting it at a Reptile show. As for the hides, for all my snakes I use plastic flower pots which I cut and shorten so there perfect. I use plastic containers for water bowls to.
Iíll manage to get the cage in time, donít worry.

-Jon-



09/23/06  11:40pm

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  Message To: Koi   In reference to Message Id: 994825


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Haha alright.

We get a lot of people in here who see a blood and want to impulse buy. Just making sure you know what youíre doing.



09/24/06  12:01am

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  Message To: Chris78   In reference to Message Id: 994847


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Yeah I know what ya mean, all they see is a cute baby snake looking up at them and just buy it with no knowledge of it. Afterwards the snake either dies or its to big for them and they wanna throw it away!
I donít like those kinda of people and Iíll never be one of them,every animal I have I have researched on for about 2 months and prepared myself for it before buying.

When I get my Blood, would a nice diet of one Rat pup a week work? An when its an adult would a guinea pig a week be ok or a rabbit every 2 weeks be better?

-Jon-



09/24/06  12:29am

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  Message To: Koi   In reference to Message Id: 994879


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I donít know much about Guinea Pigs..Maybe Es_Tropicals would know.

Why canít you use rats?



09/24/06  01:50am

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  Message To: Chris78   In reference to Message Id: 994959


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Just askin,Iíll use Rats then.

-Jon-



09/24/06  01:58am

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  Message To: Koi   In reference to Message Id: 994966


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it really depends on how big the snake is



10/11/06  12:33pm

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  Message To: Koi   In reference to Message Id: 835389


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i use 91 ltr rubbermaid clear totes with locking top modified with a 12x16 window in the top. the dimensions are 13 wide. 34 long and 14 high. mine are about three feet the tubs work good i like them and better yet my snakes seem to like them



11/29/06  03:55am


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