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 #2090135


Mangrove420
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 Need some help

i have a mangrove monitor with a respitory infection and i all ready tryed to bump up the temps to about 87 in the daytime and about 84 to 85 at night and there is no improvment. i also got a fogger to help keep humidity levels up and still no improvement. it hides about 90% of the day in its hollow log. i was told to try removing the log to somewhat force it into the warmer parts of the tank is this a good idea or is it just going to stress it out and make things worse? any information, tips or anything would be wounderful feel free to give any advice whatsoever im realy runing out of ideas
10/30/09  06:46pm

 #2090136


Crocdoc
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   Message To: Mangrove420   In reference to Message Id: 2090135


 Need some help

Post a photograph of your setup, that will help people here to help you. Otherwise it’s all guesswork.
10/30/09  06:50pm

 #2090138


Mangrove420
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   Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 2090136


 Need some help

i do not have a camra but i can try to paint a mental picture for you. i have a 75 gallon tank mind you its still a juvanile about 2 3 months old. ai have a very larde water bowl tons of branches and plants and coco fiber substrate. lots of elavated tree like pices of driftwood rocks around the water bowl and a humid hidebox. the branches are placed in a way of a canopy so it could spend the whole day off the substrate if it pleases. the water bowl takes up about 1/4 of the tank if u need anything else specifyed please let me know
10/30/09  06:59pm

 #2090143


Varanus_odom
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   Message To: Mangrove420   In reference to Message Id: 2090138


 Need some help

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if u need anything else specifyed please let me know



What is the temp gradient?
Basking temperature?
What are you using to test the temperatures?
Is there a screen top on the tank?
10/30/09  07:16pm

 #2090146


Varanus_odom
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   Message To: Mangrove420   In reference to Message Id: 2090135


 Need some help

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i was told to try removing the log to somewhat force it into the warmer parts of the tank is this a good idea or is it just going to stress it out and make things worse?



Definitely do not remove any of his hide spots. Add more! Too often I hear people recommending only one hide spot and I couldn’t disagree more especially with young monitors.

Give him options with places to hide in different temperature zones and he will do what he pleases.

You own a mangrove monitor... known to be shy/secretive. Don’t be surprised that it is hiding 90% of the time. Totally normal with this species (especially young ones).



10/30/09  07:20pm

 #2090153


Mangrove420
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   Message To: Varanus_odom   In reference to Message Id: 2090146


 Need some help

screen top with 1/3 covered with a towel
basking spot 103 to 105
digital with a probe
amd i am a bit embaressed because i should know what a temp gradient is but i do not
10/30/09  07:31pm

 #2090171


Varanus_odom
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   Message To: Mangrove420   In reference to Message Id: 2090153


 Need some help

Thats OK, you’ll find out soon enough with enough research. Tons of information is available to you on just this forum alone. Try to utilize the search feature.

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screen top with 1/3 covered with a towel


Do you have any plans on getting him an enclosure more suitable to a monitor? It’s real tough to make a glass tank suitable for even a young monitor and even if you do - it wouldn’t last long.

Get the dimensions for the screen top and take those dimensions to Home Depot and get a piece of plywood. You can mount lighting fixtures on the plywood. This will help keep proper humidity/temperature levels. With a screen top the heat/humidity rapidly rises out and can dehydrate your monitor.

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basking spot 103 to 105, i should know what a temp gradient is but i do not


What bulb are you using? Is the basking spot elevated? You can elevate the basking spot to raise the basking temps.

Ideally a basking spot for a young monitor should be around 120 F. You won’t be able to measure surface temperatures with a digital temp probe - or at least not accurately enough. Do you and your monitor a big favor and purchase a temp gun. You can find these online for $25 or you can go to Home Depot (or some auto shops) and purchase one for around $50. Basically you point a laser at an surface and it will read the temperature. You need this to accurately test surface temps in the basking area(s).

Link
Take a look at this website. Read through it and even though it’s for a ’Savannah’ monitor, you will be able to benefit from reading it.

Also if you can get any pictures, they really say a thousand words in these situations. More often than not, some people just won’t take the time to help with these issues without pictures because these types of threads pop up every week it seems.



10/30/09  08:22pm

 #2090184


Mangrove420
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   Message To: Varanus_odom   In reference to Message Id: 2090171


 Need some help

yes i do plan on making a custome enclosure i am planing on moving out of my small appartment to a larger one where i cn make a nice large enclosure the 75 is just a tempary housing enclosure untill that day comes in the near future. I am not new to keeping reptiles and usaly do not have these typs of problems. i work with reptiles everyday at my job and can usaly solve any problems without too much hassle. its just that most of the people i work with dont know allthat much about the mangroves and i just got the internet yesterday and i know these forum websites are the best places to turn when there is the need for problems that need to be taken care of rightaway. i will get the temp gun as soon as possible and give the temps that i get from it. but in the meantime is there anything else you can recomend?i thank you all for your time and information and am finding out very fast how helpful these forums are as i am new to them and plan to stick around this fourm. i will also try to get ahold of a camera so i can post picturs to help with the ease of fixing this problem
10/30/09  10:09pm

 #2090191


Sulfurboy1o3
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   Message To: Mangrove420   In reference to Message Id: 2090184


 Need some help

How do you know it has RI? What are its current symptoms?

Best recommendations from anyone here would be to stick around and pick up as much good information you can and then applying that to your animal. There are only a handful of indicus keepers,many would tell you to have tip top conditions and make the animal as comfortable as possible.
10/30/09  10:49pm

 #2090261


Mangrove420
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   Message To: Sulfurboy1o3   In reference to Message Id: 2090191


 Need some help

he lies with his head elavated and there is some bubbley mucus coming from its nose and a small amount from its mouth its gasps and coughs and when i press on its throt mucus comes out its nose
10/31/09  07:34am

 #2090446


Randy Clark
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   Message To: Mangrove420   In reference to Message Id: 2090261


 Need some help

If its symptoms are that bad you may need to get it to a vet and start treatment in conjunction with raising your ambient temps and the basking temps.



10/31/09  10:32pm


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