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ScaryMary
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 Does SHvar or anyone else know how to form an ackie trio?

i’m lookin for a breeding trio of ackies but not having much luck. does anyone know how to make your own? guessin not a good idea to just throw 3 complete strangers together. SHvar sounds like someone who would know so hopefully you’ll find this post



08/14/08  08:03pm

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Sdslancs
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   Message To: ScaryMary   In reference to Message Id: 1831196


 Does SHvar or anyone else know how to form an ackie trio?

There were some on the varanus dot net classifieds, that were well established proven 1.2 trio.
And I think SHvar is on KS.
08/14/08  08:42pm

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M&KSchaef
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   Message To: Sdslancs   In reference to Message Id: 1831225


 Does SHvar or anyone else know how to form an ackie trio?

Purchase at least three, preferably more, hatchlings and raise them up to see what ratio(s) you have. You should be able to determine the sexes around six months of age, at least in my experience. If you have excess males or females, do not consider them as such. Hold on to them in case something happens with one of the individuals in your pair.

I orginally obtained Varanus acanthurus brachyurus three hatchlings and within a few months I realized I had two males and a female. One male and female were paired, i.e. copulating and spending a considerable amount of time with each other, while the other male was incredibly antagonistic and disruptive. I got rid of him shortly after, but he’d probably be useful to have.

If you purchase a trio or more, the individuals grow up with one another and you greatly minimize the chances for problems down the road. The monitors, in essence, learn how to be monitors within the confines of captivity. They learn how to live in the company of other individuals who are in relatively close proximity. If you take lone individuals and slam them together, you may have problems if it is not timed or conducted appropriately. I’ve heard of people losing or nearly losing animals because they placed a male and female together when the female was not receptive, the male was aggressive, or in the wrong way(one individual was placed in another’s cage, i.e. territory). It can be done succesfully, but others will tell you that there are more complications.

Varanids in the wild know how to live individually and interact with others. They can run from each other, seek each other, hide, escape, avoid one other’s presence, etc. In captivity, escaping to another end of an eight foot cage isn’t really solving the problem. When you raise a monitor apart from other monitors in captivity, it does not learn how to interact with other monitors in a way that is favorable for us. It certainly knows how to instinctually, but there appears to be a whole suite of learned interactions that is absent and, once again, is favorable to our aims. This is my whole take on the issue. Others(Crocdoc, Sidbarvin, Shay, Krusty, and a few others) may have additional, more valuable, or corrective advice to what I’ve given you.

You are trying to minimize these "negative," for your purposes, interactions and have greatest success, which should be easiest with Varanus acanthurus.



08/14/08  09:21pm

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Crocdoc
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   Message To: M&KSchaef   In reference to Message Id: 1831251


 Does SHvar or anyone else know how to form an ackie trio?

I think you’ve pretty much nailed it!
08/14/08  09:30pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 1831268


 Does SHvar or anyone else know how to form an ackie trio?

ditto - good post matthew.
08/14/08  11:37pm


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