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 #1826651


AMTZ.ZERO
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 Bells phase Lace Monitor

Does anyone know how much a Bells Phase Lace Monitor would cost here in the U.S.? Thanks.



08/10/08  11:42pm

 #1826657


Sidbarvin
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  Message To: AMTZ.ZERO   In reference to Message Id: 1826651


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

I seriously doubt you find any bells phase laces for sale at any price in this country.



08/10/08  11:50pm

 #1826669


BansheeRacer25
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  Message To: Sidbarvin   In reference to Message Id: 1826657


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

Roger did you get my pm?



08/11/08  12:04am

 #1826673


Sidbarvin
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  Message To: BansheeRacer25   In reference to Message Id: 1826669


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

No Billy, I’ll look again.



08/11/08  12:11am

 #1826678


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Sidbarvin   In reference to Message Id: 1826673


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

I thought i saw one somewhere for around 5000 when i was looking for monitors somewhere the place had super tiger retics for 150 as well so it might be a good deal for the lace



08/11/08  12:20am

 #1826680


Reedie
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1826678


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

You’ll be lucky to find any lace monitors in the United States.

The only person I know of that breeds them is John. He posts as 3240 on here.

-Reed



08/11/08  12:24am

 #1826682


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Reedie   In reference to Message Id: 1826680


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

I know a few people in the us that have some. I think some one got them from a breeder in the uk



08/11/08  12:29am

 #1826689


Sidbarvin
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1826682


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

You know someone in the US who has bells phase laces?



08/11/08  12:46am

 #1826707


3240
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1826682


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

I’m not aware of any bells in the U.S. or Europe.



08/11/08  01:15am

 #1827376


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: 3240   In reference to Message Id: 1826707


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

I need to ask my friend if he still has them. He moved to washington because his dad is in the airforce. he bought it from some country he lived in before he moved here. He lived in germany and austerlia and somewhere near africa so im not too sure if he got them in the us or what. ill have to check



08/11/08  05:53pm

 #1827387


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1827376


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

he said it isnt a bell phrase its a regular/bell baby. He said he got it from a guy in east austrelia a few years back. Its not as dark but shows very light traces of the lines in a few places on its body. To get one you either have to live in austrelia or have someone illegally get one out for you



08/11/08  06:03pm

 #1827451


Crocdoc
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1827387


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

What’s a regular/bell? It has to be one or the other.

The military use their privileges to smuggle animals, once again. What’s more, someone in Australia illegally sold an animal to an unlicensed foreigner.



08/11/08  07:24pm

 #1827489


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 1827451


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

Were pretty sure that one parent is a normal and the other a bell. It may also be a full bell tho because it has the stripes but its lighter than most bells we seen. Were not too sure. Its been since last october since i have seen it because he moved. Im trying to get him to send pics of it to me and ill post them if he sends me them



08/11/08  07:53pm

 #1827773


Crocdoc
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1827489


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

There are no half bells or half normals, it’s either one or the other, no matter what its parents were. If it has stripes, it’s a normal. If it has bands, it’s a Bell’s. Not easy to confuse the two when you see them.

Normal




Bells



08/11/08  11:27pm

 #1827785


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 1827773


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

he had a bell then the bands werent pure white they were kinda light grey. i thought for a pure bell they had to be pure white. The monitor itself is lighter as well thanks for the pics



08/11/08  11:35pm

 #1827793


Reptictale92
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1827785


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

That is one gorges monitor.



08/11/08  11:45pm

 #1827800


Crocdoc
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  Message To: Reptictale92   In reference to Message Id: 1827793


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

It isn’t showing up well in that photo, but it’s a creamy yellow, not white. It’s not the colour that determines whether or not it’s a Bell’s, but the patterning - the broad bands of black and yellow/cream/white vs the narrow bands of black and yellow/cream/white.



08/11/08  11:50pm

 #1827805


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 1827800


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

oh i see we thought it was by color as well. I wish he had a pair so i could get a baby



08/11/08  11:53pm

 #1827808


Crocdoc
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1827805


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

What would you do with it?

I’m willing to bet your mate has it in an undersized, inappropriate enclosure. See if you can get some photos of it (the lace monitor and its enclosure).



08/11/08  11:55pm

 #1827813


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 1827808


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

i emailed him he has 8 foot tall by 12 wide x6 deep is that big enough?
I would take one if he had a pair and they had babies but he has one



08/12/08  12:02am

 #1827846


3240
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1827813


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

I’m calling BS until I see pics.



08/12/08  12:44am

 #1827856


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: 3240   In reference to Message Id: 1827846


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

like i said im waiting for an email from him. He lives in southern washington somewhere i havent been to his new house. Its a 18 hour drive for me so i probally wont be going soon. If he sends me pics ill post them. He hasnt lived by me for 3 years i have only talked on the phone and e mail. for all i know its dead or sold. Im waiting for the e mail to find out and get pics



08/12/08  12:57am

 #1827919


Crocdoc
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1827856


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

Dang, John, you beat me to it! I was about to post exactly the same thing.

I’m with John - I’m calling your bluff. I say there is no lace monitor at your mate’s place, bells or normal, and that there’ll be numerous mysterious reasons for the photos never showing up. No camera, camera broken, lost his camera etc etc.

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I would take one if he had a pair and they had babies


As I asked earlier, what would you do with it? Even if your mate did have a pair, you’d be in way over your head with a lace monitor. You’ve barely even had your sav for long:
Link
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08/12/08  01:48am

 #1827941


Crocdoc
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  Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 1827919


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

Quote:

i emailed him he has 8 foot tall by 12 wide x6 deep is that big enough?



Quote:

like i said im waiting for an email from him. He hasnt lived by me for 3 years i have only talked on the phone and e mail. for all i know its dead or sold. Im waiting for the e mail to find out and get pics



So he emailed you to say that the enclosure he has is 8 x 12 x 6, but didn’t happen to mention whether or not the enclosure’s inhabitant was dead or sold....

uh huh



08/12/08  02:11am

 #1828054


Zuko
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  Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 1827941


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

Hmmmmmm?????

LoL



08/12/08  08:09am

 #1828277


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Zuko   In reference to Message Id: 1828054


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

i emailed him first to see what size cage he had i didnt even ask if he still had it . i emailed him again after that to ask so im going to assume he has it or he would probally just say it died



08/12/08  12:04pm

 #1828741


Crocdoc
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1828277


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

Seriously, if you had a lizard that died and someone sent you an email asking what size enclosure it was in, you’d reply "I no longer have that lizard".

You wouldn’t say "oh, it’s in a 12 x 8 x 6" and then wait for another email asking you, on the off chance, whether or not it was still alive.



08/12/08  06:36pm

 #1829033


Xaaro291x
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  Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 1828741


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

I just asked him what size his monitors cage was. I emailed him later to see if he still had it. I just got an email from him tonight and he said that he had actually sold it to his dads friend that was in the military in feburary and used some of the money he got for a car and kept a little for a flavi pair. i would guess that the monitor will either die or the guy will sell it when he moves. I really dont know nor care too much on his monitor for being a banded lace monitor. i have only saw it like twice when he lived around here because we were at my house most of the time. I dont get why so many people seem to care about this morph. I would love to have one but i dont feel like spending $500 or more on any reptile. I will do that over time but at one time no way unless im building a cage or something



08/12/08  10:53pm

 #1829070


Reedie
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1829033


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

Sure, he "sold it".

-Reed



08/12/08  11:17pm

 #1829075


3240
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  Message To: Xaaro291x   In reference to Message Id: 1829033


 Bells phase Lace Monitor

$500 or more for a bell? Try $15k or more if one became available here. Add another $25k for legal fees (smuggled animal) and your talking about a $40k monitor.

However, this is a silly discussion as they’re not available outside of Aussie. Except for the one owned by the first cousin of my wife’s second cousin’s best friend’s step dad. I’ll post pics later.

Just messing around with you!



08/12/08  11:23pm
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