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 #1230304


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 New Enclosure.

I just wanted to share one of my new enclosures.
Hereís how it started.


Stackin logs!


Logs stacked!


Basking site in, extra lights and water tub.


Finished product!


Finished product!
A photo from within the enclosure, notice the female in the log under the male.


Two more to go!
Mike



04/01/07  07:15pm

 #1230319


Bella<3reptiles
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  Message To: Mikes Monitors!   In reference to Message Id: 1230304


 New Enclosure.

wow that is one kick buttmunch habitat you have there



04/01/07  07:24pm

 #1230329


Sidbarvin
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  Message To: Mikes Monitors!   In reference to Message Id: 1230304


 New Enclosure.

Mike, that is an awesome cage! Ingenuity at itís finest. I take it itís on the ground floor. Is that a sliding door?
I just finished my timor cage. Iíll post pictures later.

Roger



04/01/07  07:29pm

 #1230373


DRZRider
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  Message To: Sidbarvin   In reference to Message Id: 1230329


 New Enclosure.

That enclosure is looking good. Are the landscape timbers untreated?

Ed



04/01/07  08:03pm

 #1230415


Weidjd
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  Message To: DRZRider   In reference to Message Id: 1230373


 New Enclosure.

What is weight on the whole setup? What are the dimensions?

Nice idea to use the timber. Adds a very unique look.



04/01/07  09:08pm

 #1230438


KAP10CAVY
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  Message To: Weidjd   In reference to Message Id: 1230415


 New Enclosure.

That is one nice cage. Looks good and stirdy.
I do wonder how well it would keep teenagers...............

Scott



04/01/07  09:37pm

 #1230478


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  Message To: Mikes Monitors!   In reference to Message Id: 1230304


 New Enclosure.

Roger
Yes, my Reptiles are kept in my garage. Yes again, sliding doors.
Looking forward to seeing your Timor setup!

Ed
I do believe they are presure treated. (a story on this at the end of my post)

Weidjd
Wieght=unkown (very heavy!)
In total the enclosure measures, 6íL, 3íW, 6íH.
4í is terrestrial, 2í subterranian.

Scott
I have 8 children...so the thought has crossed my mind!
In these thoughts the glass is the ONLY weak spot! LOL!

Now for the story. This design has been in my head for a while!
The treated part had me put back a bit. I desided to go with plywood, I went and picked up all of my material. On the short ride home I couldnít take the smell! So I turned around and went back and bought the timbers, they smell great! I didnít have to open my windows just to breath.
So I figured that plywood is treated as well, perhaps a bit differently...I really donít know.
I have used both plywood to build cages and landscaping timbers IN enclosures both with no problems.
Iíll have to hope everything will be fine.
Thanks again to all!
Mike



04/01/07  10:09pm

 #1230496


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  Message To: KAP10CAVY   In reference to Message Id: 1230438


 New Enclosure.

Great enclosure.



04/01/07  10:19pm

 #1230557


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  Message To: Mikes Monitors!   In reference to Message Id: 1230478


 New Enclosure.

That cage looks real nice. I wouldnít of used the treated lumber myself though. Iíd be to worried about the chemicals embedded leaching out into the soil, or onto the monitors skin, or simply passing through feeder insects. Same reason I wouldnít use red mulch.

Here is a little bit about pressure treated lumber.
In the pressure-treating process, lumber is sealed in a tank, and air is extracted, creating a vacuum. Then a solution containing chromium, copper, and arsenic is added. Because of the vacuum, the chemicals are carried deep into the wood. Chromium is a bactericide, copper a fungicide, and arsenic an insecticide, and all arrest decay of some kind. All three are toxic, but chromium and copper donít raise many concerns. If we donít inhale it, chromium is not particularly harmful to us, and copper isnít very toxic to mammals, although it is to aquatic life and fungi. Itís arsenic that is worrisome.

After all that I will say I have never tried it out myself. So (guinea pig) looks like you can let me know if I was worried for good reason or not.

Oh and the smell of plywood, yes indeed you are correct but it does gas off with time.



04/01/07  11:05pm

 #1230592


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  Message To: JPsShadow   In reference to Message Id: 1230557


 New Enclosure.

Jody
Guinea pig, well I hope I can report good news Brother!
These timbers were presure treated with Akaline copper quartermary, no arsenic at all!
That makes me feel a bit better, but what is quartermary?
All of my little work horses (roly polyís, centepedes, and millepedes) are alive and doing fine.
There was some mold growing on a few of the timbers before I washed each one.
Like I said even plywood is treated and I have used both with no ill effects.
I have never used timbers to this extent, so time will tell.
Alot of pond places use these same timbers for above ground Koi ponds.
Mike
P.S. Great looking dog!
My English Bulldog Nunzio would love to share his skateboard! LOL


How about the dog food scare, better be carefull.
Nunzio only eats Nitro Natural Choice large breed adult.



04/01/07  11:31pm

 #1230622


JPsShadow
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  Message To: Mikes Monitors!   In reference to Message Id: 1230592


 New Enclosure.

Yes ACQ treated lumber does not have any arsenic in it. It is used down here in gardens, .40pcf is used when in contact with the ground, and .25 pcf when used above ground. They tend to last about 5 years or so in a garden.

The above ground koi ponds are lined with pond liner so the exposure to wood is minimal if at all.

Yeah I watched the local pet stores franticaly pull dog food off the shelves.

I am usually telling everyone they worry to much, for some reason I have had my worries about treated lumber. I hope it works out well for you. Keep us posted so we can all steal (borrow) your idea.



04/01/07  11:52pm

 #1230649


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  Message To: JPsShadow   In reference to Message Id: 1230622


 New Enclosure.

it looks like a great cage, nice job



04/02/07  12:27am

 #1231923


Shay_
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  Message To: Animalsrawsome   In reference to Message Id: 1230649


 New Enclosure.

what a great idea. I never thought to build a log cabin for the lizards. Thatís using the íol imagination.
nice lookin dog. hereís one of mine


cheers



04/03/07  12:15am

 #1231954


KAP10CAVY
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  Message To: Shay_   In reference to Message Id: 1231923


 New Enclosure.

8 kids?????!!!!!!!!!! Damn Mike, you must have one hell of an incubator.

Scott



04/03/07  12:30am

 #1231961


Shay_
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  Message To: Animalsrawsome   In reference to Message Id: 1230649


 New Enclosure.

what a great idea. I never thought to build a log cabin for the lizards. That’s using the ’ol imagination.
nice lookin dog. here’s one of mine


cheers



04/03/07  12:38am

 #1231963


Shay_
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  Message To: Shay_   In reference to Message Id: 1231961


 New Enclosure.

whoops, how did that happen???



04/03/07  12:40am

 #1231980


Krusty
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  Message To: Shay_   In reference to Message Id: 1231963


 New Enclosure.

quaternary means that the Copper has 4 substituent groups that are not hydrogens (one is primary, two is secondary, three is tertiary) if anyone actually gives a ratís a$$ about organic chemistry.



04/03/07  01:05am

 #1232026


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  Message To: KAP10CAVY   In reference to Message Id: 1231954


 New Enclosure.

Scott
I donít think the Old Bird would go for walking around with a bunch of Monitors eggís in her oven! LOL
Mike



04/03/07  01:58am

 #1232027


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  Message To: Shay_   In reference to Message Id: 1231961


 New Enclosure.

Shay
Good looking Dog Brother!

Krusty
Thanks for the lesson.
Mike



04/03/07  02:00am


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