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Fergie View Profile |
Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/07/08 01:49pm |
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Brad.a.c View Profile |
Message To: Fergie In reference to Message Id: 1822917 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/07/08 01:57pm |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Fergie In reference to Message Id: 1822917 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/07/08 02:18pm |
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Greatballzofire View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1822937 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/07/08 02:58pm |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Greatballzofire In reference to Message Id: 1822976 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/07/08 03:39pm |
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Fergie View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1822937 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/08/08 12:07am |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Fergie In reference to Message Id: 1823575 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/08/08 02:29am |
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Fergie View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1823654 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
I asked a genuine question as i have only started getting into the Pyro’s and the responses i got sort of threw me as to what my snake may truly be. Don’t worry i’ll not be posting on this forum again. Especially when obnoxious pricks like yourself, seem to make a habit of shooting people down when they ask an honest question. |
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| 08/08/08 02:51am |
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Greatballzofire View Profile |
Message To: Fergie In reference to Message Id: 1823664 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/08/08 09:13am |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Fergie In reference to Message Id: 1823664 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
Ok, i see now, i should of a have stated "gotta love sonora MTN kings", my apologies. |
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| 08/08/08 09:20am |
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Greatballzofire View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1823796 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
There has been so much cross breeding and such with the different varieties of these snakes that I think the best approach may be to just enjoy our little snakes for the exquisite creatures they are, and not get in a big hairball over which subspecies, ect. |
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| 08/08/08 09:29am |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Greatballzofire In reference to Message Id: 1823802 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
do you know the diffrence btwn a pyro,pyro and a pyro,woodini? |
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| 08/08/08 10:04am |
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Greatballzofire View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1823838
Quote: greatballz,
do you know the diffrence btwn a pyro,pyro and a pyro,woodini? I think it is that pyro pyro is Sonoran or Arizona Mtn king and woodini is a subtype of that. If you have better information please share with me. Link I work with three of the four subspecies, or two of the three subspecies, depending on if you accept woodini as a valid subspecies. Sometimes referred to (Markel) as the Sonoran Mountain Kingsnakes, as a group. There is quite a difference between populations and/or subspecies. My most Northern one would by L. p. pyromelana. They have a tendency towards more bands, narrower white, while the woodini have slightly fewer bands and wider white. From Bob Applegate. I think my male looks more woodini than his sister. Whatever they are I think they are the greatest eye candy! Last night I was watching them explore their new homes. The white looked like it had been painted on with a tiny brush. It was entrancing!  |
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| 08/08/08 02:20pm |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Greatballzofire In reference to Message Id: 1824110 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
hmmmm? maybe that’s why both variations have been rolled into one. then i’ve also read that a variation of pyro has been found without any red now what sub do you suppose that one is? taxonomists rarely get classifications right 1st, 2nd or 3rd time and sometimes they never get it right,lol!, that’s why they’re always changing names. |
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| 08/08/08 02:56pm |
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Greatballzofire View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1824143 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
Quote: taxonomists rarely get classifications right 1st, 2nd or 3rd time and sometimes they never get it right,lol!, that’s why they’re always changing names.
My point exactly! That is why I say we should just enjoy our living jewels, and not get our knickers in a twist over what ’s what. The only really reliable way to sort this would be to go to the specific locations where the various types are found, find some, and take DNA samples. Then that information could be correlated with the huge amount of DNA available in captive populations...this makes my head hurt just thinking of all the work involved. |
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| 08/08/08 03:06pm |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Greatballzofire In reference to Message Id: 1824149 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/08/08 03:35pm |
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Greatballzofire View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1824168 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
* 1950 BA, U AZ. * 1952-1971 Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum, Tucson, AZ. * 1954-1971 Director, Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum, Tucson, AZ. * 1956 Wrote Master’s thesis on Lampropeltis pyromelana, Dr. Tanner knew of his interest in the species and named the subspecies for Mr. Woodin. * 1956 MA, Zoology, U CA. * 1972+ Director Emeritus, Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum, Tucson, AZ. * 1981+ President, Woodin Laboratory, Tucson, AZ. A little bit of bio about Mr. Woodin, for whom the Lampropeltis pyromelana woodini is named. |
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| 08/08/08 06:11pm |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Greatballzofire In reference to Message Id: 1824339 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/08/08 07:18pm |
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Greatballzofire View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1824404 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
Quote: i’m gonna name my next pyro "woody".
Beat ya to it! I named my male Woody and my female Dotz, for the dot on her neck. Now I will always think of Woody Harrelson, one of my all time favorite actors, when I do anything with my snake Woody! He was great in Natural Born Killers and so was Juliette Lewis...oh, no , wandering off topic big time!  |
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| 08/08/08 08:41pm |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Greatballzofire In reference to Message Id: 1824467 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/08/08 11:00pm |
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Misce-FL View Profile |
Message To: L.ROY In reference to Message Id: 1824582 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/11/08 09:43pm |
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L.ROY View Profile |
Message To: Misce-FL In reference to Message Id: 1827638 Gentleman Jim stuffing his wee face.
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| 08/11/08 10:00pm |
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