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 #1646098


Van_jen2005
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 Just some pics





i know the second pic is of my leapord gecko but they are housed together and have been for months and are both males and they are doing great together
03/03/08  02:29pm

 #1646190


Suicidepill
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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1646098


 Just some pics

Nice but i would seperate them, one will get an RI.
03/03/08  03:38pm

 #1646193


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No, no, no! fat tailed geckos and leopard geckos are different species and require different environments. fat tailed geckos need 65% or more humidity while leopard geckos do not require much humidity at all. If you are not giving your fat tail his required humidity level he will have bad sheds and possibly refuse to eat. If the humidity is too high for your leopard gecko he will get a respiratory infection. Just because none of this has happened yet does not mean it won’t. You need to give them separate enclosures and read some care sheets.
03/03/08  03:42pm

 #1646199


Van_jen2005
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   Message To: Repfanatic   In reference to Message Id: 1646193


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I have read about a million care sheets.....both are eating well and shedding just fine believe me I make sure they are fine no health problems at all......
03/03/08  03:46pm

 #1646203


Van_jen2005
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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1646199


 Just some pics

they have two hides in the tank and choose to sleep together lol i mist the tank when needed and like i said they are doing great i use paper towels as there substrate and have a water dish that they can stand in
03/03/08  03:48pm

 #1646307


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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1646203


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And your statements are why I wrote this:

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Just because none of this has happened yet does not mean it won’t.


If you want to take the chance then fine, but I can guarantee the results will not be good.
03/03/08  04:47pm

 #1646804


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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1646098


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There’s nothing you can do to help someone who will put the knowledge that he THINKS he has over the safety, well being, and happiness of their pets.

I have been working at an Animal Hospital for quite a while and most diseases take more than months before the outward symptons begin to show.
Geckos do not show sickness like humans or even dogs can. You will absolutely NOT be able to tell that your geckos are sick until it is almost positively too late.
In all seriousness, one or both will die a slow and excruciatingly painful death.


Separate them if you love them.
03/03/08  09:29pm

 #1647352


Van_jen2005
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   Message To: AllHailRain   In reference to Message Id: 1646804


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I love my animials very much I have talkd with my vet and they have seen the vet and are in good health........I also have a friend that has had his together for 3 yrs..........and I dont think I know that things are fine I love all my animials and they are well taken care of thank you..........
03/04/08  11:25am

 #1647764


AllHailRain
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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1647352


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Most veterinarians do not go through extensive herp studies and would not know unless he was a specific specialist who happened to be informed on your two species of gecko.
Not likely. If you tell them that they’re doing fine and they need the same care, then he will probably trust you on it.

Well, one person that you happen to know in this world who is ignorantly miscaring for animals is certainly a better information source than every single internet source and several experienced owners.
One case does not speak for all. There have been several deaths due to housing these 2 geckos together and there will always be flukes, and sometimes things fall through the cracks and just happen.
One incident of it going well does NOT mean that it is a good idea. Odds are very strongly against you.


No one gets upset when people don’t know that they could be hurting their animals.
Now that you know that you are risking your animal’s well beings, you have to decide if you are going to be smart and take care of them like they need it, or just hope that your geckos end up like your friends and survive the situation for as long as they have.
They’re hardy geckos, they will live in this situation for a long time.
Just not healthily or happily.
Like I said, symptons often take a LONG time to surface and by then it’s too late.

Your choice.
03/04/08  04:51pm

 #1648374


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   Message To: AllHailRain   In reference to Message Id: 1647764


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im siding with the above statement i personally would never house the species together as i know i couldnt keep them both fully healthy. and yes i keep both species.
youre not likely to find much sympathy if something goes wrong from any experienced keepers since you were warned and lots of info is readily available on both species. ive seen how quickly things can go bad. i also know most vets dont know squat about lizards.. ive found that a lot seem to just google info and feed it back to you.
my only other comments are do not introduce another gecko into the habitat.. keep them away from females.. as this sounds like a case of males never being aroused.. and aroused males get territorial (or from a possible mistake in sexing them). watch out for lip chapping and sores on/around the aft’s mouth from low humidity. if you keep the humidity high then watch for wheezing sounds from the leo as this means it has a respiratory infection starting. and add more hides.. im hoping you have them in at least a 20 long as both species have a minimum 10 gallon per gecko unofficial size rule.. you can fit more than two hides in a tank that size. other than that i hope you separate them.
03/04/08  10:17pm

 #1648789


Van_jen2005
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   Message To: Smurfzilla   In reference to Message Id: 1648374


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yes they are in a thirty gallon so they have ample room.......I also have a hide box with wet moss in it for the fat tail that the leapord also goes into when he is shedding..... I think you all for your concern........and no other geckos are going into that tank..,..i have two baby geckos that are in a ten gallon for now becouse they are so small........I wouldnt have them in the same tank if If I hadnt research it and no that they are doing fine........thank you smurfzilla you have been the most helpful and pulite.....I just dont understand people saying I dont love my animials....all of them are well taken care of and in a thirty gallon tank they have a gradent so there doing just fine.
03/05/08  09:31am

 #1649629


AllHailRain
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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1648789


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I was not trying to be impolite.
I am just honest. I work with animals every day, all day, at work, at school, and at home.
I am the herp-nerd at my vet office..
I worked with an iguana this week that came in a dull grey and immobile. He was starting to walk, climb, gained it’s lime colouring, and opening it’s mouth for a syringe supplement food without force.
Then it just died. Things happen when you don’t think they will.
And I take animals very, very seriously.

I believe that you do love them. But a lot of people who love their animals..don’t take care of them. At all. And I have slowly lost all patience with people like that. And honestly, housing those geckos together is giving them inadequate care.



03/05/08  08:44pm

 #1650096


Van_jen2005
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   Message To: AllHailRain   In reference to Message Id: 1649629


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well thank you allhailrain for your concern i love my animials very much and i get mad when people dont take care of their animials but like i have said i have done enough reseresh and my animials are checked regulary at the vets ........thank you all for your concern.........
03/06/08  09:25am

 #1653414


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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1650096


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there really cute, how old is your aft?
03/08/08  10:33pm

 #1653594


Van_jen2005
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   Message To: Jessie_spawn   In reference to Message Id: 1653414


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thank you.......im not sure of their age they where both given to me.......to all the people that said i should seperate them its been done they both have a ten gallon...........they hate it their passen around their tanks!=(
03/09/08  01:05am

 #1654154


AllHailRain
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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1653594


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Thank you so much..it will truly benefit both of them in the long run.
They’re passing around because it’s something different and they’re exploring their new territory. Once they adjust, they’ll be just fine.
since the problems that come with the two housing together are because of their different habitats..why don’t you take them out together when you handle them and let them explore your bed/couch/arm or whatever they feel like crawling on together. That way, if there is a ’bond’ between them, they get to see each other and have comfort in their better-suited environments. Then everybody’s happy.
:]
03/09/08  04:18pm

 #1654217


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   Message To: AllHailRain   In reference to Message Id: 1654154


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thats a good idea thank you



03/09/08  05:10pm

 #1658630


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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1654217


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I keep my AFT with all my leopard geckos and they have all been just fine. The AFT gets a little nippy here and there, but I’ve never had a problem. I adopted mine AFT from petco, where he lived in a 12x12 inch tank with a hide and some bark chips. He was so stupid, he couldn’t catch food by himself, he still has problems shedding, he can never get it off all the way. But he’s healthy and has learned how to be a real gecko from my leos.
03/12/08  07:04pm

 #1658946


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   Message To: Coyoteluver   In reference to Message Id: 1658630


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I keep my AFT with all my leopard geckos and they have all been just fine. The AFT gets a little nippy here and there, but I’ve never had a problem.


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he still has problems shedding, he can never get it off all the way.


How can you say being nippy and having stuck sheds are not a problem?

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He was so stupid, he couldn’t catch food by himself,


That’s a nice thing to say about a lizard you supposedly love. He couldn’t catch his own food because he wasn’t kept in the right environment at the pet store either. Now he’s having to compete with the leos in order to survive.

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But he’s healthy and has learned how to be a real gecko from my leos.


AFTs are NOT leopard geckos. They don’t even live in the same place or have the same personalities. AFTs live in tropical climates with a lot of humidity and are less active than leos. Leopard geckos live in desert climates with very little humidity. I’d like to see pictures of this AFT that is supposedly healthy. Also, how long has he been in the same enclosure with your leopard geckos? Hopefully you come to your senses like the OP did and separate your leos from your AFT before he dies. BTW, needing help to shed does not say "healthy gecko" to me.



03/12/08  10:24pm

 #1659437


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   Message To: Repfanatic   In reference to Message Id: 1658946


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thank you repfanatic.
i think you spoke for almost all of us on this forum.


AFTs rarely bite and that combined with shedding problems just screams sickly gecko.



03/13/08  01:40pm

 #1659450


Van_jen2005
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   Message To: AllHailRain   In reference to Message Id: 1659437


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glad its not me this time lol thanks for the advice guys...hopefully this person hears and seperets them
03/13/08  01:57pm

 #1679214


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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1659450


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Stop freaking out. I’ve long since setup his own tank and such.
It was an experiment, and it did help him out, teaching him how to hunt and hide with the others.
And he’s been nippy since I got him, just like some leopard geckos are. I’ve worked with reptiles over ten years, and worked at a few different pet stores for quite a long time. I’m not stupid.
You people freak out and think no one knows proper care, the terraruim i had them in is 250 gallons, ample room to support 2, well I actually have three different types of habitats. The shedding is better, its not lack of food, or humidity, in all honesty, he’s not very bright, and he surely would have been dead if I left him where he was.
03/28/08  12:55pm

 #2076851


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   Message To: Van_jen2005   In reference to Message Id: 1646098


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Nice dorsal fin on the fattie. I dont own a fattie, but i want one. can you breed a leopard with a fattie? I dont know.



09/26/09  02:43pm

 #2077167


Speck
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   Message To: Radek   In reference to Message Id: 2076851


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are you stupid? did you not just read this forum? why the hell would you ask this? LEOS are NOT AFT’s! at all. can i breed my dog and cat? no! should i keep my fish and my parakeet together? no. come on now.

and to the moron who thought his aft wasn’t a real gecko, from my experience they don’t hunt much, they perfer the food to come to them. and if you think he is so stupid, why do you keep him?

really can’t handle all this stupidity.
you say you’re not stupid, yet you housed them together...

and to the op, males shouldn’t be together anyways, so how well did you really research anything?
09/27/09  12:04pm

 #2077237


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   Message To: Speck   In reference to Message Id: 2077167


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You know, there closely related. Just Wondering...



09/27/09  03:18pm

 #2077388


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   Message To: Radek   In reference to Message Id: 2077237


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They’re both geckos. SO does NOT mean they are closely related. Why don’t you look it up if you want to know so bad since you’re obviously not smart enough to see the answer in this thread that you dug up.



09/27/09  08:41pm

 #2077442


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   Message To: Radek   In reference to Message Id: 2077237


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maybe you could understand this one, hampster and gerbil. should i mate them? no. should i even keep them together? probably not even though they have the same care.
09/27/09  10:23pm

 #2077484


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   Message To: Speck   In reference to Message Id: 2077442


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Why do people even add to threads if they dont read them all the way!?
How would you like to live in a room with a chimp, would you mate with a gorilla....No. I didnt think so! There is such a thing as a stupid question!

Thank you two for seperating them, Im sure they are much happier and will live much longer!
09/27/09  11:56pm

 #2077494


Speck
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   Message To: Daynegerous   In reference to Message Id: 2077484


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perfect analogy. congrats.
09/28/09  12:28am

 #2077634


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   Message To: Repfanatic   In reference to Message Id: 2077388


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I got it the first time. All you had to say was no! I’m a stupid thirteen year old...



09/28/09  11:09am
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