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 #2271706


Mason12
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 Pacman enclosure

I like to use just water(with reptisafe in it) as my substrate, nothing else. I used to have them in eco earth coco fiber but it was messy and i like to see my frogs. It is so much easier this way all i have to do is dump out the water and refill it everyday to ensure they not sitting in their own waste. I also keep my two pacman frogs in the same tank and have no problems.

Here is King Louis, my big guy 5-6", Ornate w/nice colors



Here is Bubba, my lil guy 3" maybe less



This is King Louis bout to get at a few fuzzies



Here is the tank



comments, opinions, advice
thanks



06/30/12  08:00am

 #2271708


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  Message To: Mason12   In reference to Message Id: 2271706


 Pacman enclosure

because you have a frog not a fish
that has evolved to be on land rather than in the water 24/7/365

& because you just may be too lackadaisical or uncaring to provide a proper environment in which
your pacman to "thrive" rather than just survive......

I raise mine in a moist sphagnum moss, soil & polymer water crystal mix



Ornate Horned Frog



06/30/12  08:39am

 #2271710


Mason12
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  Message To: Rokdog   In reference to Message Id: 2271708


 Pacman enclosure

they dont think or anything just enjoy eating food and sitting around anyways. and a worker at a legit rep shop told me bout this.
not trying to argue just seeing peoples opinions



06/30/12  08:49am

 #2271716


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  Message To: Mason12   In reference to Message Id: 2271710


 Pacman enclosure

I can see if your a herper with a large breeding collection to care for,
doing it this way(set-up like a sterile labratory setting) as to saving time as to husbandry.

but for someone with a few critters at home & no breeding program it just shows
a lack of compassion as to your herping husbandry skills & animal care.



06/30/12  09:19am

 #2271718


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  Message To: Rokdog   In reference to Message Id: 2271716


 Pacman enclosure

wtf who are you lol. i care alot about my animals i just like to be able to see them not have them hiding under the dirt 24/7
I enjoy pacman frogs cuz their appetite and size, not really trying to make an elaborate terrarium



06/30/12  09:28am

 #2271719


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  Message To: Mason12   In reference to Message Id: 2271718


 Pacman enclosure

wtf are you other than lazy.........





06/30/12  09:44am

 #2271724


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  Message To: Rokdog   In reference to Message Id: 2271719


 Pacman enclosure

I apologize for being a little blunt with you Mason,
but I’ve been around reptiles, amphibians & other small critters for a long time now
& have seen many a reptile suffer in vain as a new herper gets all excited at the start then
quickly looses interest & just let their poor animals waste away many times starving to death or dying in their own dirty cages that people just king of forget about them even though they walk by their enclosures many times a day "ignoring" the obvious maybe thinking their lizard, frog etc...can just drive up to the local walmart & get what they need to survive......

raising any animal takes commitment & attention to their needs if they are to thrive in a realistic environment that mimics their natural setting......its a marathon not a sprint....and being slow & steady like a tortoise pays off as to raising critters much better than getting "caught up in the hype" & going gonzo like a jack rabbit sprinting only to lose interest in your pet quickly down the line...

Have a Excellent day!!!!



06/30/12  10:52am

 #2271935


Mason12
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  Message To: Rokdog   In reference to Message Id: 2271724


 Pacman enclosure

So I decided to put back together my old terrarium setup and added the eco earth again


I cleaned the water after the picture btw



07/02/12  03:43am

 #2271940


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  Message To: Mason12   In reference to Message Id: 2271935


 Pacman enclosure

I just cleaned it added some more eco so its not so damp.




07/02/12  05:23am

 #2272116


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  Message To: Mason12   In reference to Message Id: 2271940


 Pacman enclosure

good job...
as a herper one of our goals is to house our collection in enclosures that mimic the animals natural setting...........it also adds interest to the enclosure & looks like a mini "ecosystem" & ones learns better as to certain environmental requirements that are specific to the animal you will becaring for.

Have a great 4th of july!!



07/03/12  09:27pm


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