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 Pacman substrate/impaction question.

Hi, new member here. I’ve had a pacman frog for about 5 months and up till now I’ve always fed him in a separate container with no substrate in it, about three weeks ago he refused to eat anything in the container so I tried dropping some crix in his aquarium an he gobbled up the first five to get near him. Since then I’ve been feeding him every other day and I see no ill effects but what worries me is that I was watching him eat earlier and I noticed he would get quite a bit of substrate (eco-earth) in his mouth with the crix. He seems to spit most of it out and I’m assuming he gets it in his mouth every time, after three weeks with no ill effects or sign of impaction should I be worried?



07/19/08  02:35pm

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  Message To: Pavel74   In reference to Message Id: 1801952


 Pacman substrate/impaction question.

eco-earth is a very good brand, but you need to get the right bedding for the right frog. Here is a picture of my pac man’s bedding:


also try expandable compressed coconut fiber bedding.



07/19/08  09:03pm

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  Message To: Steven1   In reference to Message Id: 1802412


 Pacman substrate/impaction question.

eco-earth earth IS coco fiber. And eco earth/coco fiber will not cause impaction if you have your frog under the right conditions (temp and humidity).



07/23/08  02:13pm

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  Message To: PICKLES_THE_PYXIE   In reference to Message Id: 1806212


 Pacman substrate/impaction question.

Well, it is unlikely to. Theoretically, anything can. Especially if the frog, for whatever reason, gets stupid and doesn’t soak or thermoregulate properly for a few days. So it’s a risk to be aware of. If after he swallows bedding, he starts acting blocked up, then that’s why. But I agree, compared to bark or gravel or even moss, his chances of passing it harmlessly are very high.



07/23/08  05:46pm

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Pavel74
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  Message To: JackAsp   In reference to Message Id: 1806459


 Pacman substrate/impaction question.

O.k. I guess I’m a frog newb, but how can I tell if he is thermo-regulating right? also how does a frog act when he’s stopped up? thanks.



07/23/08  07:51pm

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  Message To: Pavel74   In reference to Message Id: 1806624


 Pacman substrate/impaction question.

There’s two ways to tell. If he keeps relocating, he’s probably thermoregulating. If the room temperature seems just right, say , mid 70s to low 80s, and he speands half his time in the warm end and half his time in the cool end, that’s thermoregulating. Or, if the room isn’t perfect, but he moves to the warmer end when it’s 70 and the cooler end when it’s 85, then he’s thermoregulting. That covers you two thirds of the time. The problem is the other third of the time.
When it gets hard to tell is when the room is just right and he finds a perfect spot and just stays there. At that point, you just figure that if he’s eating and pooping, then he’s okay.
When they’re stopped up they tend to soak a lot, without pooping, and will tend to stop eating but still look fatter than usual and feel very solid. Basically, as long as food’s going and out, he’s okay. If it isn’t he should be hanging out in the water dish a LOT. If not, you might have to force-soak him, which just means putting him in a bucket with shallow, clean, very slightly above room temperature, dechlorinated water for half an hour a day until he clears out.



07/28/08  12:38am


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