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 #2126029


Mryan1994
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 Breeding rat help?

We just purchased 4 rats they are 2 sets of m/f. I was wondering how to tell when the females are in heat. Today both of the males testes were hanging out so i put both sets in different cages. How will I know if they end up mating or getting pregnant? How long should i leave them together I have 5 ivs set up for them. We are breeding them to feed the pinkys to Jacobi my 7 mnth old corn snake and 2 snakes who will be eating the small rats and my biggest snake will be eating the adults.. I already checked at the pet stores where im at and they are asking 2.50 just for a pinky. and 12 for a larger and like 7 for the mediums.



02/22/10  06:28pm

 #2126509


Cphill58
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  Message To: Mryan1994   In reference to Message Id: 2126029


 Breeding rat help?

I am not sure how to tell when they are in heat....but they do it every 4 days.

I do know that when they are with a male that is sexually mature (5-6weeks) they will be much more receptive and actually raise their tail to allow mating.

You didn’t say how old yours were ...If the male is just showing his package they are about 5-6 weeks maybe 4. Still quite young and maybe just practicing, but soon enough it will happen.
I leave my male with 2 females ...for about 10 days as long as I see him mating her multiple times and she is receptive I am sure I can expect babies ....it takes about 30 days for the female to produce young.

At about 25-27 days I can see teats on the momma and I seperate her to a nice stress free clean cage and give her a small cardboard box to make a nest in with my old t shirts torn up ...they are lint free and will not cause the babies to choke on fibers ...such as paper towels and care fresh will.

Make sure you give the momma good protien as she developes ...good people food chicken works well. She will need lots of extra care after she gives birth and will be hungry for just about anything. Another source of good protien is peanut butter on some wheat bread ...mine love it ! They will eat just about anything and butternut squash is a favorite too, great for calcium!
Feel free to ask any questions ...I have been breeding rats all year and now sell them too...FUN !!

Chris



02/23/10  09:37pm

 #2126708


Mryan1994
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2126509


 Breeding rat help?

thanks alot i think they are a month and some old. ill try to get pics up when i get home



02/24/10  02:41pm

 #2126899


Cphill58
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  Message To: Mryan1994   In reference to Message Id: 2126708


 Breeding rat help?

OK , can’t wait to see them...



02/25/10  03:15am

 #2127229


Mryan1994
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2126899


 Breeding rat help?

Finally i was able to take pics. The black and carmel are my males and the two twins are the females.
Females are 1st

- the carmels mate.

- the blacks mate.

- black male

-carmel male
I had to scrub my pool table down 5 times.



02/25/10  10:49pm

 #2127498


Cphill58
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  Message To: Mryan1994   In reference to Message Id: 2127229


 Breeding rat help?

Nice pics...

I really like the Panda with the broken spots on the back...a lot of mine are like that.

Daddy Rat:


Offspring:




Now I have so many more it’s ridiculous....LOL 4th generations ...maybe 5th ...hard to keep track. i am selling some every week online , KSL ...much like " Craigs List" here in Utah

TTYL

Cp



02/26/10  08:34pm

 #2127799


Mryan1994
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2127498


 Breeding rat help?

Wow thats alot of rats. My females are pregnant. How many babies should I be expecting?



02/27/10  08:55pm

 #2127813


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  Message To: Mryan1994   In reference to Message Id: 2127799


 Breeding rat help?

8-14



02/27/10  09:40pm

 #2128151


Cphill58
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  Message To: Suzuki4life   In reference to Message Id: 2127813


 Breeding rat help?

Yes mine are having about 12-15 ...I allow them to grow up and mature before breeding ..about 2 months old and more. That way I don’t have a teen ager trying to give birth...

They have all produced large litters and never cannibalized as of yet. The issue is the momma only has 12 teats...but she has 14 or 15 babies ...so there is a runt or 2. I lost a runt last week poor thing ... I eneded up feeding right away to a reptile.

When momma has her babies she will be very protective and bite the hand that feeds her ...so watch out...I have to use tongs to get her feeding dish out and stuff like that...I have been bitten several times lately ...but it’s quick and not too painful ...just scares me !! and bleeds a little. She doesn’t hang on ... just a quick bite.

LOL

Cp



02/28/10  08:04pm

 #2128242


Suzuki4life
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2128151


 Breeding rat help?

I breed hundreds of rats....biters are few and far between. They associate you with food.

If you let them know you are afraid of them...they will bite you.



03/01/10  12:28am

 #2128575


Mryan1994
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  Message To: Suzuki4life   In reference to Message Id: 2128242


 Breeding rat help?

dang. Is there a way to tell how far along the females are?



03/01/10  07:47pm

 #2128671


Suzuki4life
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  Message To: Mryan1994   In reference to Message Id: 2128575


 Breeding rat help?

gestation time is roughly 28 days...

if they are showing, the odds are they are close.



03/01/10  11:59pm

 #2128785


Cphill58
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  Message To: Suzuki4life   In reference to Message Id: 2128671


 Breeding rat help?

I am not sure how to read your tone Su... so I will ask first... did I say something to offend... I am not afraid of the rats... I hand raise them and they are quite tame...but with young , it is a natural instinct to protect... they bite.. I am sure you have experienced it. With all your experience.

Chris



03/02/10  10:02am

 #2128791


Suzuki4life
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2128785


 Breeding rat help?

Domestic rats don’t bite anymore than a puppy does if exposed and conditioned to know their handler. There are always exceptions to the rules.

The more interaction you have, the less likely they should be to bite you.



03/02/10  10:18am

 #2128793


Cphill58
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  Message To: Suzuki4life   In reference to Message Id: 2128791


 Breeding rat help?

I can see this is going to be fun.... Hi ...my name is Chris... what’s yours ... wanna be friends ... for a while this forum seemed slow ... I was tying to help answer an unanswered question ... and well now you see the thread is growing ...

Your words are short and pointed ... almost authoratative... if that is your intention it is coming across loud and clear. Did I step on your toes or something??


Cp



03/02/10  10:25am

 #2240039


Turtle Hatter
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  Message To: Suzuki4life   In reference to Message Id: 2128791


 Breeding rat help?

suzuki4life,

I would like to see pictures of your breeding facility. It sounds like quite an operation. I have thought about breeding but have never committed to doing so. It would be great to see your larger scale breeding project and a description of the maintenance routine.

thanks



10/11/11  02:06pm

 #2240109


Cphill58
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  Message To: Turtle Hatter   In reference to Message Id: 2240039


 Breeding rat help?

This thread is almost 2 years old....



10/11/11  11:52pm

 #2240168


Turtle Hatter
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2240109


 Breeding rat help?

I didn’t realize that it was that old... If he had a couple hundred rats 2 years ago he may still have them.



10/12/11  04:29pm

 #2240240


Cphill58
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  Message To: Turtle Hatter   In reference to Message Id: 2240168


 Breeding rat help?

If you want pictures I can provide ....I have well over 200 currently, simple tub racks and an 8 x12 shed.



10/12/11  09:04pm

 #2240320


Turtle Hatter
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2240240


 Breeding rat help?

If it isn’t too much trouble I would be interested in seeing your setup.

Thanks



10/13/11  02:34pm

 #2240382


Cphill58
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  Message To: Turtle Hatter   In reference to Message Id: 2240320


 Breeding rat help?

I’ll take some new photos ...and post soon ...I can also post old ones...just need to dig them up



10/13/11  09:30pm

 #2240408


Turtle Hatter
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2240382


 Breeding rat help?

Either one or both would be great. I am not about to start a large scale rat breeding operation (but maybe in the future). I would like to see your setup but there is no rush on the photos if it is a bother.
I would also like to know how many rats you are producing.

Thanks.



10/13/11  11:42pm

 #2243559


Cphill58
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  Message To: Turtle Hatter   In reference to Message Id: 2240408


 Breeding rat help?

Well I found the thread again...geez, was wondering where it went
.
I have 18 large tubs going plus a 4x2x2 catch all for smalls and mediums...Sometimes I have over 200 rats...my GF says more. I just sold off 45 and probably still have so many that I can start freezing and retiring older breeders that only produce small litters ...but I get attached to some of the larger males / females and hate to see them go. But you can’t keep feeding them and go broke. A few special ones , maybe.

I spend about 125-150.00 per month on rodent block and substrate to change the tubs. The insulated /heated and air conditioned shed with ceramic tile floor cost well over 1500.00 Still paying the materials off from my Home Depot account. I did most of the building myself but had help.





ONE SPECIAL GUY(ROCKY)


THIS WEEK LOTS OF LITTERS


MICE TOO



I have the hose and nozzles in place for about 99% self watering...have to get the 5 gallon buckets and valves ...then I can do away with the water bottles.

Cp



11/08/11  08:09pm

 #2244671


Turtle Hatter
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2243559


 Breeding rat help?

Wow!

That is a rather impressive setup. the rodents have their own building!

thanks for responding with some great picks.



11/18/11  06:53pm


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