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 #2151207


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 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Hey guys, I’m not too sure if this is the right place for it. But I’m trying to help a friend out, she is looking for a black doberman puppy, around the rochester, NY area. It has to be black only, since her husband only wants a black one and not a red one. Also a puppy only due to her wanting it to grow up with their daughter.

If anyone has/knows of any breeders around that area, please could you PM me.

Thanks alot.



05/28/10  06:25pm

 #2151254


Repfanaticlady29
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  Message To: Fraggle   In reference to Message Id: 2151207


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

The best place to find a reputable breeder is the AKC website. Link

Also, Dobermans don’t come all black. They have the signature tan markings on their face and body.



05/28/10  10:22pm

 #2151308


Mel Mel
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  Message To: Repfanaticlady29   In reference to Message Id: 2151254


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

What does PM mean?



05/29/10  08:49am

 #2151315


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  Message To: Mel Mel   In reference to Message Id: 2151308


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

PM means private message



05/29/10  09:29am

 #2151331


Mel Mel
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  Message To: FutureVet123   In reference to Message Id: 2151315


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Oh, thank you a lot. lol, I didn’t even know.



05/29/10  10:53am

 #2151490


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  Message To: Mel Mel   In reference to Message Id: 2151331


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Hi, if i may say you can get all black Dobermanns but they are hard to come by and are not recommend in owning as they can have similar tendancys to health issue like the albino/white Dobermann. Since im not from America and don’t really work there im not much of a help but if you were in Europe i could help you out a ton loads!! All the best!



05/30/10  08:37am

 #2151491


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  Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 2151490


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Solid black




05/30/10  08:43am

 #2151596


Mel Mel
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  Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 2151491


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Well, I’m not getting a black doberman when I’m older.



05/30/10  06:40pm

 #2151598


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  Message To: Mel Mel   In reference to Message Id: 2151596


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

How?



05/30/10  06:42pm

 #2151599


Mel Mel
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  Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 2151598


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Well, because of all the health problems.



05/30/10  06:44pm

 #2151600


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  Message To: Mel Mel   In reference to Message Id: 2151599


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Dogs a dog really they all can have health issue, its the fact that the BYBs breed them is the real issue though.



05/30/10  06:46pm

 #2151602


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  Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 2151600


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Oh, but does every black doberman get those health issues?



05/30/10  07:04pm

 #2151679


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  Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 2151600


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Thanks for the info, Ghastly. I never knew black Dobies existed. I wonder if they’d get faulted in the show ring for their lack of markings.



05/30/10  11:59pm

 #2151705


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  Message To: Repfanaticlady29   In reference to Message Id: 2151679


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Mel mel:

Yes, every solid black along with every Albino/white Dobermann. Black and tans don’t have health issue but can still fall victim to the breeds health issue eg. Hip/Elbow Dysplacia, Von Weilbrands (VWD), Cervical Vertebral Instability aka Wobblers Sydrome, Diluted Cardiomyopathy, Prostatic Disease and Autosomal Dominant Trait. These things can be avoided if the parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc. are questioned about. Any dog being used as a stud or a mare (what we call a female ready to breed) should not have any of these as most of them are hedairty (passed down to pups) they also must have a sound temperament as 50% of the parents temprament is passed down and the other 50% is what you make the dog so a unstable parent(s) will be passed down in some way shape or form, but this applies to any breed.

Repfanatic:

No worries, solid blacks and albinos/whites i never speak of! Mostly because we try to "extinct" the albino one not out of cruelty but because of future owners and the vet bills (they areso expensive and disease you can think of they will get) and as for Solid blacks the are a mutt! Well they were first "created" buy a mixing a Black and tan Dobe with a solid black dog (lets say a Lab) and the pup grew up to be most Dobermann looking despite the marking thus forth then bringing a craze of solid blacks. Like with any genetic if you mate a black and tan to a chocolate or a fawn there will be mostly black and tan pups as its more of a dominant gene, well the solid black was mated with a black and tan due to the SB being "more black" the pups came out black but as the other parent was pure Dobe the pups grew up to be pure Dobes but with that little quater of the "Lab" but obviously if you keep breeding the SB pups to black and tan Dobes they eventually cast out the "Lab" breed and characteristics.
But yes all in all Solid blacks and albino/white Dobes are HIGHLY frowned upon by correct breeders and especially the show ring as they are both defaulted "colours" and due to the "abnormality" they do actually have a unstable temperament :( to which is ashame as if you have a correct Dobe they are wonderful dogs really. But the only people you will find that breed both these colours are BYBs and are passing them off as "super rare colour" and they are specially imported from somewhere, its all bull!!!! Any correct breeder will have info on them but highly advise against them and the albino/white eg. like what i have done lol ^^ but thats my rant



05/31/10  05:36am

 #2151714


Mel Mel
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  Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 2151705


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Well, then I might get a black doberman when I’m older.



05/31/10  07:59am

 #2151718


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  Message To: Mel Mel   In reference to Message Id: 2151714


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

I am really hoping you are on about a black and tan and not a solid black then, despite what i have stated and how people breed them for money despite they are temperamental and not advisable in owning i really hope you mean a black and tan!!



05/31/10  08:48am

 #2151721


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  Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 2151718


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Mel Mel

Black and tan

Boni she is one of my working dogs






Solid Black

Zane (he isn’t one of my workers but from a kennel in Spain) also posted above






Now let me know which one you are actually on about as im totally confused



05/31/10  09:01am

 #2151809


Mel Mel
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  Message To: Ghastly   In reference to Message Id: 2151721


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

I’m talking about a black and tan. Thankfully, lol.



05/31/10  03:06pm

 #2152373


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  Message To: Mel Mel   In reference to Message Id: 2151809


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Yeah, I think she’s looking for a black and tan one, not a solid black one. I’m not quite sure, but I’m not from America either, lol. They are just some good friends of mine, I go to visit them quite a bit. But it’s a hella long flight all the way from Australia lol.

But thanks, I’ll let her know about these and see what she thinks. :)



06/02/10  09:55am

 #2152374


Mel Mel
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  Message To: Fraggle   In reference to Message Id: 2152373


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Hey, I live in America and I’ve been to Australia 2 times! The flight to Australia is 14 and a half hours, the flight back is 12 and a half hours.



06/02/10  10:01am

 #2152376


Fraggle
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  Message To: Mel Mel   In reference to Message Id: 2152374


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Yeah, it’s a pretty long flight to be honest, but I don’t really mind it. Since I fly all the time for work, going from Australia to Dubai every month. but it’s my kids that make the flight tiring haha, as usual.



06/02/10  10:05am

 #2152378


Mel Mel
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  Message To: Fraggle   In reference to Message Id: 2152376


 Looking for a black doberman puppy.

Well I’m 10 years old and the T.V. screens keep me quite.



06/02/10  10:07am


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