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#1819494

PARTYPHIL
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Photo contest week#1

On some forums theres pic contests so how bout we start one now???
Ill go first

NO THEME

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Chameleons: Vields Yoda and shela

08/04/08 03:53pm

#1819496

C.cyber
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Message To: PARTYPHIL In reference to Message Id: 1819494

Photo contest week#1

ALL OZZY!

08/04/08 03:55pm

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LunaC
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Message To: C.cyber In reference to Message Id: 1819496

Photo contest week#1

Nice pics!

08/04/08 10:47pm

#1821492

Dazza12345789
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Message To: LunaC In reference to Message Id: 1819980

Photo contest week#1

Heres baby Rambo!

Daryl

08/06/08 10:16am

#1821559

PARTYPHIL
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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1821492

Photo contest week#1

wow looks like a tiger!!! lol nice

08/06/08 11:41am

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Boothy
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Message To: PARTYPHIL In reference to Message Id: 1821559

Photo contest week#1

WOW shes pretty much showing her gravid colouration , so be warry as of now that she has eggs and to be safe just have a 1 by 1 or bigger bin, i use a recycling bin and fill it to the top , but no less then ten inches of substrate in the bins or they wont dig for you and keep it moist so it doesnt cave in on her while shes digging but shes a beautiful panther though i love her bright peachy colours , justa beaut! im guessing shes a ambilobe or sambava???

08/06/08 01:10pm

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Dazza12345789
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Message To: Boothy In reference to Message Id: 1821645

Photo contest week#1

Hi, Thanks for the compliment, the pet shop i got him from said that he was a ambanja and a MALE! are you sure that he is a female?? lol he is only 10months so that could be why he may be kinda dark?

Please reply again!!!!
Thanks
Daryl

08/06/08 03:09pm

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Dazza12345789
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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1821804

Photo contest week#1

OO yr i forgot to mention about the he/she!!! he puffs out quite a bit and hises and i heard that females dont do that, he is grumpy lol!

Thanks again and PLEASE reply!!
Daryl

08/06/08 03:24pm

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LunaC
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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1821492

Photo contest week#1

Unless you have some serious pink reflecting off those walls or you did some serious color editing of the photos to enhance the color, I’d say you have a gravid female, too. A Rambette :)

How old is "he" supposed to be? To be sure, take a good, clear photo of the tail base right at the back legs and post it.

08/06/08 05:07pm

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Jr_
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Message To: LunaC In reference to Message Id: 1821965

Photo contest week#1

Hey Luna, if I think what your talking about, I see no spurs in that first pic.

Get a close up on the back hind legs.

Josh

08/06/08 08:07pm

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LunaC
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Message To: Jr_ In reference to Message Id: 1822141

Jr ...

Panther chams don’t have spurs. Ony male Veileds have the spurs so a photo of the back feet is useless to determine gender in Panthers.

A photo of the tail base where it meets the body at the back legs is what is necessary to determine gender of Panthers (depending upon age, of course).

08/06/08 11:38pm

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LunaC
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Message To: LunaC In reference to Message Id: 1822400

Jr ... PS

Hey Josh! Didn’t recognize your other nic for a moment! Hope all is well ... good to see you :)

~ Laura

08/06/08 11:45pm

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Message To: LunaC In reference to Message Id: 1822408

Jr ... PS

Yeah it’s me. I see your adding more babies into your house LOL. How have you been? I’m off work the next few days cause I got my wisdom teeth pulled this morning.

I didn’t realize that veild males only had spurs

Josh

08/07/08 12:39am

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Dazza12345789
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Message To: Jr_ In reference to Message Id: 1822456

Jr ... PS

Thanks for your replys , "he" is ameant to be 10 months coming on 11, also the reason he could be going that colour is the walls around him are that colour? Also like i said he does puff out and hiss at us and i didnt think that girls could do that? I will post some pics later of his back legs and but!

Thanks
Daryl

08/07/08 07:16am

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Jr_
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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1822605

Jr ... PS

Puffing out is not really a matter of gender. Its the animal themselves and all have different personalities. Luna, correct me if I’m wrong though but to me that sounds like something they just told you for the sake of it.

Josh

08/07/08 08:59am

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Dazza12345789
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Message To: Jr_ In reference to Message Id: 1822653

Jr ... PS

Ok then thanks, here are the pictures, sorry they are not that good but its the best my camera could do!!! if there not good enough let me know and ill take some others:

And puffing out (i know it doesnt matter like JR_ said but still pretty cool pic!)

Thanks
Daryl

08/07/08 11:11am

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Jr_
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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1822753

Jr ... PS

I agree, it is a nice picture... Now lets let Laura decide and put her input in.

Josh

08/07/08 02:03pm

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Julirs
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Message To: Jr_ In reference to Message Id: 1822928

Jr ... PS

That IS a female and quite possibly gravid. A male would be showing color at 10-11 months old. You need a laying container in her cage or she could die eggbound.

08/07/08 09:55pm

#1823495

LunaC
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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1822753

Daryl ... Josh

Yeah, I have to stick with female, too. And very gravid. And needs a laying box ASAP.
I’d missed the Ambaja part in the prior post. That surely is no 10-month old male Ambanja.

Remember, the wall color would have no bearing on your cham’s color. Chams do not change color to match surroundings or to camouflage. Their colors & patterns changes reflect their moods and health.

As for hissing, puffing, gaping ... that is basic cham defensive/stress behavior and not exclusive to males, despite what you were told. Too bad the place that sold you the cham either doesn’t know what the h*ll they’re talking about or outright lied just to be rid of a gravid female. She will lay infertile eggs throughout her life, so you really need to read up and be prepared.
As for her immediate health, it is imperative you provide her with a laying box. She may soon be exploring her cage more, scratching at sides and bottom, showing a decline in appetite, and appear more thirsty. She also needs a really good nutritious diet and more calcium in the form of live Phoenix worms, or dust.
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Josh, sorry to hear about your wisdom teeth...ouch! I know the pain :) Glad you’re doing okay other than that!
Yeah, doing fine here too, thanks. The newest Quad addition was not a purchase and not planned. That friend who owns the exotics store (remember he breeds chams, snakes, parrots, etc ... bought my Sambava girl and clutch; talked me into taking all those cargo accident baby turtles, etc) gave him to me. This new Quad is his retired breeder, but he doesn’t like to sell his personal animals in the store, so he asked me to take him.
Again, good to see you! Take care.

08/07/08 10:40pm

#1823585

Jr_
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Message To: LunaC In reference to Message Id: 1823495

Daryl ... Josh

Ah well that was nice of him. How have you been? Anything cooking or breeding anything yet?

Josh

08/08/08 12:15am

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Dazza12345789
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Message To: Jr_ In reference to Message Id: 1823585

Daryl ... Josh

ok then thank you!

Thanks
Daryl

08/08/08 02:58am

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Dazza12345789
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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1823669

Daryl ... Josh

Ok, i done all the research for a so called "male", so need to catch up on females! do they lay infertile eggs monthly? and other that more calcium do they need anything else!?

Thanks and sorry for sounding like such a noob!!!

Daryl

08/08/08 03:05am

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Julirs
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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1823674

Daryl ... Josh

We were all "noobs" once! Really the important things about female care are not overfeeding, and providing them a place to lay. They could lay every 3-4 months, so I just leave the laying container in with my females just in case. Overfeeding them and keeping them too warm can cause large clutches and that can shorten their lives. Don’t supplement too much more, just make sure she is on a good regular supplement schedule so she has the extra calcium for the eggs, but don’t shake and bake-too much is still bad. You have yourself a real beauty there. The only thing is if that bad ’ol Petstore told you it was a boy they might not know really what the locale is, and it is nearly impossible to tell the females apart.

08/08/08 07:07am

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Message To: Julirs In reference to Message Id: 1823739

Daryl ... Josh

Ok, thank you, and they dont go as bright of colours as the males do :(

Thanks again
Daryl

08/08/08 10:23am

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Message To: Dazza12345789 In reference to Message Id: 1823849

Daryl ... Josh

sorry took so long but LunaC and Juli are right shes deff a female , and shes deff gravid so do as much research as possible on females and you will do fine just make sure you do some everyday iv had chameleons for 4 yrs now and i still learn things to this day about them

08/08/08 11:00am

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Message To: PARTYPHIL In reference to Message Id: 1819494

Photo contest week#1

My ambilobe, Floyd

See the florescent blue spot on his side:
http://www.repticzone.net/images/53345/ff.JPG

Floyd sleeping:
http://www.repticzone.net/images/53345/f1.JPG

Inverted the colors:
http://www.repticzone.net/images/53345/floyder.JPG

08/11/08 04:43pm