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 #1809344


Replover1
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 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

i no a little bit about them but i don’t have 1 yet, but i have a ten gallon tank and is that big enuff for 2 or just 1? how much plants should i put in it?
wat should the flooring be? i allready have peat moss but i don’t think that will workwill a heat rock kill it? Help,please
07/26/08  11:21am

 #1809427


Gretchenellie
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1809344


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

IMO, a 10 gallon tank will hold only one adult pygmy. you can get away with having two in a 10 but for their long term health i wouldnt risk it.

i would keep a pair in something no less then 20 gallons.
07/26/08  01:29pm

 #1809456


Replover1
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   Message To: Gretchenellie   In reference to Message Id: 1809427


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

ok,but wat about the other questions?
07/26/08  02:01pm

 #1809499


Julirs
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1809456


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

If you view my profile it will link you to my website where your questions will be answered...
07/26/08  02:45pm

 #1809512


Replover1
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   Message To: Julirs   In reference to Message Id: 1809499


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

i just did and its only about the veiled chameleon not the pygmy chameleon
07/26/08  03:07pm

 #1809554


Gretchenellie
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1809512


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

if you go with a 20 gal for a pair, pack it full of plants.. preferably live if you have a green thumb.

lots of sturdy vining plants live pylodendron, some ficus’ and pothos and some smaller "tree" like plants such as mini palm make great viv plants.

as for substrate, i would use either organic potting soil, coco fiber or peat moss mixed with some orchid bark for drainage. i would not mix sand into the substrate. over time it may result in the pygmy’s having a blockage. and that can be fatal.

they do NOT need a heat rock.. room temps are fine if they are in the mid 70’s range.

also, make sure to get a CB animal if you can and avoid WC altogether. they are a pain to acclimate.

here is a link to my pygmy site for you:

http::cherisse44.webs.com/

good luck !!
07/26/08  04:11pm

 #1809559


LunaC
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1809512


 Replover1

The section on Pygmy’s is in the left hand sidebar on her site. "Pygmeleons". That’s the info you need. Check Julirs’s profile again, click the link to her site and look for "Pygmeleons".

Also I saw your other post about feeding ... a cham cannot survive on fruit alone. If you don’t have regular access to suitable insect feeders then perhaps a cham of any species isn’t the best choice for you.
07/26/08  04:16pm

 #1809572


Replover1
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   Message To: LunaC   In reference to Message Id: 1809559


 Replover1

ok,i can feed it crickets and stuff i was just wondering if i should feed it more fruit than bugs.



07/26/08  04:30pm

 #1809597


Julirs
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1809572


 Replover1

They-don’t-eat-fruit. Nope. They don’t. They eat LIVE bugs.



07/26/08  05:08pm

 #1809613


Replover1
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   Message To: Gretchenellie   In reference to Message Id: 1809554


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

well i am only going to get one and i have a 10 gallon tankand i found the pygmy things wat if i just get fake plants,is it bad to not get real plants? And so peat moss with some orchid bark? and i got the part with no heat needed,bc i have a scorpion and its normal temp with out the heat which is 73 degrees so the heat is good.

Quote:

also, make sure to get a CB animal if you can and avoid WC altogether.



i don’t know wat a CB or a WC is,wat does it mean?
and the website gretchenellie gave me really helps. thanx




07/26/08  05:21pm

 #1809689


Gretchenellie
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1809613


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

cb= captive bred
wc = wild caught.

wild caught pygmy’s have large parasitic loads that can be difficult to treat. they can succumb very easily in a matter of hours or days if not quarantined properly.

thats not to say that Cb pygmy’s dont have parasites. but raised in an environment where they are not exposed to WC chameleons and do not share any food items or tank decorations, the parasitic load is far less. which makes them easier to acclimate.

good luck with your soon to be pygmy and post pics when you get him/her!





07/26/08  06:32pm

 #1810344


Replover1
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   Message To: Gretchenellie   In reference to Message Id: 1809689


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

ok i will, but about the pics,i tried to put some on my scorpion album and they don’t show for some reason.
07/27/08  11:20am

 #1810770


Gretchenellie
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1810344


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

have you tried posting them on photobucket . com ( no spaces ) and then uploading them here?
07/27/08  06:01pm

 #1810861


Replover1
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   Message To: Gretchenellie   In reference to Message Id: 1810770


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

no,i’ll try it tho
07/27/08  07:07pm

 #1811084


Replover1
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1810861


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

a few more questions,can get sticks from the out side?how big do they have to be?
do i need a light still?
07/27/08  10:30pm

 #1811191


Gretchenellie
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1811084


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

yes, you can gather sticks from outside.

just make sure that they are not the type that leach any sort of poisons or saps. and also that they are collected from pesticide free areas.

you can bake them in a standard oven for 15 minutes at 350 degrees to rid them of any potentially harmful bugs. ( make sure that you wet down the sticks before placing them in the oven or they will catch fire ).

i would give them a light, yes. it can be a regular florescent light. i opt for both a uva/uvb light and an incandescent light.

it also doesnt have to be very bright.
07/28/08  01:49am

 #1811492


Replover1
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   Message To: Gretchenellie   In reference to Message Id: 1811191


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

ok,and when i said"how big do they have to be?" wat i ment was,does it have to skinny or wide
07/28/08  12:33pm

 #1811828


Replover1
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1811492


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

Quote:

does it have to skinny or wide



i was talking about the sticks and mabe twigs
07/28/08  05:32pm

 #1812098


Gretchenellie
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1811828


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

smaller thinner branches work better, but they are able to climb thicker one’s as well..

i give my pygmy’s large cork bark flats to climb around on... which they always take advantage of...
07/28/08  09:26pm

 #1812363


Replover1
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   Message To: Gretchenellie   In reference to Message Id: 1812098


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

ok
07/29/08  06:45am

 #1812365


Replover1
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   Message To: Gretchenellie   In reference to Message Id: 1812098


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

do i have to put real plants in the cage or can they all be fake plants?
07/29/08  06:47am

 #1812376


Julirs
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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1812365


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

You really need real plants. Pothos works great, is hard to kill, makes vines for them to crawl on, and the real plants help hold up humidity. Fake plastic plants just don’t work well with pygmies. They can be tricky so you want to set up an environment as close to their natural one as possible.
07/29/08  07:05am

 #1813075


Gretchenellie
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   Message To: Julirs   In reference to Message Id: 1812376


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

just as Julirs stated, real plants work best.

pothos is an excellent suggestion as well as phyllodendrons.

if you dont have a green thumb, you would need to find other ways of keeping humidity consistent. which can be a little tricky..



07/29/08  08:10pm

 #1813469


Replover1
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   Message To: Gretchenellie   In reference to Message Id: 1813075


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

ok,thanx
07/30/08  10:34am

 #1816330


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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1809344


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

you should put one in a ten gallon tank, put wood shaving onthe bottom moss and rocks are fine get a waterfall or drip system to
08/01/08  06:25pm

 #1816392


Julirs
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   Message To: C-lab   In reference to Message Id: 1816330


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

C-lab-you are a bit off. Please no wood shavings or waterfalls, ever.
08/01/08  07:03pm

 #1819125


Replover1
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   Message To: Julirs   In reference to Message Id: 1816392


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

about the lighting tho... can i use a light that people usally put on fish tanks?
08/04/08  09:58am

 #1819620


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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1819125


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

about the lighting tho... can i use a light that people usally put on fish tanks?

sorry i had to repeat this,it was tword the bottom
08/04/08  05:32pm

 #1819662


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   Message To: Replover1   In reference to Message Id: 1819620


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

You need a low % UVB light for them. A Zoomed Reptisun 2.0% fluorescent tube will work fine.
You can get an inexpensive fixture for the bulb at Walmart or Home Depot. I think the undercabinet type of fixture are a good size.

Make sure you leave the clear plastic panel OFF the fixture after you insert the bulb. UVB rays do not pass thru plastic or glass.
08/04/08  06:11pm

 #1819822


Gretchenellie
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   Message To: LunaC   In reference to Message Id: 1819662


 Pygmy Chameleon questions?

there has been some debate on whether pygmy’s need UVB lighting.. i personally use it and so do a number of people..

however, i have also used just a regular florescent light over a tank with no ill effects...

pygmy’s dont need very bright light, as they dwell primarily on the forrest floor.. but for live plants, you would need a fairly decent wattage light..

good luck!
08/04/08  08:51pm
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