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Cphill58
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 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

I have and am very fond of a white/ snow patterned bull snake which was given to me in 08. What a character...always curious and very pleasant to handle. Never an aggressive moment ...a real gem to have rescued/re-homed.

Discovering in this very forum what type / morph he was I have cherished him and considered him special...his dark jet black eyes I have never seen in any snake. His growth was doing well and he rarely passed up a meal. Hand feeding was a treat and he was ever so gentle.

Over the last 1/2 year he has been scaling back on meals, whereas he used to eat small or medium rats with gusto, now won’t take anything but a pup or rat fuzzy. He is losing weight.

I went to the vet for a fecal and check up... the fecal is clean...the diagnosis...CANCER. Our vet is an exotic specialist ...performed all our reptile surgical procedures for various iguanas and boas...we are lucky to have her here in the area. She is a trusted wealth of information.

She describes the cancer as affecting the kidneys and lower bowel tract...numerous lumps / hard tumors , once pointed out to me, were felt ...but not visible 2-3 " before the vent...She showed me what to look for and why she doesn’t think it would be viable to perform surgery as the tumors are too numerous (I felt 3). Indicating to her, that if possible 1 kidney could function for the snakes life, but she suspects both kidneys are affected.

Since the snake knows he can not pass the fecal matter of a larger prey item he does not attempt to eat it...and if he does eat it might be difficult to pass even the smaller items

Cancer is more and more prevalent among reptiles in captivity due to the fact that natural forces are not in effect , eliminating the weaker animals and allowing only the strong to survive. We (the human factor) are allowing weaker and inbred animals to survive longer but with that we see the ugly side too. This does not mean I take a stand for/against anything ...just sharing her thoughts which seem plausible.

Investigative x rays are 120.00 exploratory surgery on top of that will bring the total close to 500.00, possibly to discover the worst ...or lose the snake in recovery from the anesthesia. She was blunt honest , he won’t likely make it.

The best I can hope for is that he eats and maintains life for a while longer, while I prepare for his passing. His time with me was too short...I will dearly miss him and his antics when he free roamed.





09/29/11  04:24pm

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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2238624


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

so sorry to read this, thats a beautiful snake. enjoy your time with him and do what you can to keep him comfortable is all you can really do. im sending some good juju your way!



10/01/11  01:39am

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  Message To: Xkabx   In reference to Message Id: 2238788


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

Thanks X...appreciate it



10/01/11  12:58pm

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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2238840


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

Omg chris I am so sorry to hear this . He’s such a pretty snake. I wish you luck.



10/02/11  07:10pm

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  Message To: Mhd730399   In reference to Message Id: 2239011


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

Thanks Blake ....he will not eat ...even baby hopper mice ..?? It’s terrible knowing that he will slowly starve or need to be put down.

Truly a favorite of mine ...very depressing



10/04/11  02:02pm

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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2239163


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

I’ve been there. My northern pines were siblings, and both died with some very, very similar issues that two different vets deemed to be genetic.
This is why I have a very short fuse with breeders who insist that reptiles are somehow magically exempt from everything we know about inbreeding.
I have nothing to offer except sympathy, unless you want to try tube-feeding. In that case, avoid purine-heavy junk such as the usually-offered A/D diet, and use a very weak, watery mix of one of the Mazuri gels. I used Bird of Prey gel, although later nutrional analysis made me think that their Crocodilian gel would actually have been even better.
That’s still just putting off the inevitable. Whether or not to tube-feed depends on whether the animal is currently in pain or not. Either way, everything comes to an end. And, at least in this particular context, endings suck.



11/14/11  12:34am

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  Message To: JackAsp   In reference to Message Id: 2244148


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

A month after he lost another 100 grams , I went back to the vet and had him put down. He rests now , always missed never forgotten.



11/15/11  11:12am

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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2244312


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

rest in peace beautiful snake and my condolence’s



11/15/11  12:55pm

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  Message To: Xkabx   In reference to Message Id: 2244327


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

Such a gorgeous snake.Condolences to you.Sorry for your loss.



12/27/11  08:28pm

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  Message To: PinkyPie   In reference to Message Id: 2248633


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

I was browsing RZ as we all do from time to time and I saw this and it is extremely sad to lose such a beautiful snake.... any snake for that matter I’m sorry to hear about you loss.



02/10/12  08:36pm

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  Message To: Old rex   In reference to Message Id: 2254739


 Its a sad day for Gandalf ( vet visit)

Thanks for the kind words ...it’s been awhile now but his memory will always be here

Cp



02/11/12  05:05am


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