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#1793307
Wildy
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Wild lil boa 
wasup fellas! im new to this forum so please help me out here.well about a week ago my bro gave me a snake that im 100% sure is a red tail boa.its verry small about 1 foot long .the truth is that he caught it outdoors here in acapulco mexico.so im a lil worried since it was born in the wild.i fed it a hopper and it ate it real quick so im guessing its in really good shape.i want to be able to handle it without it bitiing me.is there any way i can tame it or get it use to getting handled?please help i really want to keep this 1 since boas can go up 2,000 pesos around here equal to $200.
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07/13/08 01:23am
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#1793901
Wildy
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1793307
Wild lil boa
comon fellas help me out here.a couple more things i forgot.. it has coco fiber subtrate.i have a 100w trex heat lamp on it during th day goes of at night.the weather is warm all the time during the night here in acapulco.i dont have a thermometer but will get 1 soon.it has his lil pool he can dip in and a trunk to chill on.thanks in advance.i will post pics soon.
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07/13/08 05:57pm
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#1794047
Wildy
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1793901
Wild lil boa
her are some pics.can anyone specify on the breed?
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07/13/08 08:18pm
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#1794052
Wildy
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1794047
Wild lil boa
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07/13/08 08:22pm
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#1794095
RandyRage
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1794052
Wild lil boa
it almost looks like a baby red tail, i could be wrong. That head kinda made me think of a red tail when i seen it though.
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07/13/08 08:52pm
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#1794133
Wildy
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1794052
Wild lil boa
i just took some more pics so you guys could get a better look at the inviorment and at the boa itself.i move the lil hut it was in and just watched evry movment i made.thankfully it didnt try to bite me or anything.so here are a couple more pics.
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07/13/08 09:12pm
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#1794166
Wildy
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1794133
Wild lil boa
take a good look at it randy.heres a better shot.you got any advice on the handling part since it was born wild so i called it wildy lol.
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07/13/08 09:34pm
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#1794411
Drepop
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1794166
Wild lil boa
mines was 3 weeks old and I didnt catch him I bought him at a reptile expo. yours looks young like 3-7 months. how long do you think he is. My male is almost 2ft and is 5 months old. and his breathing is normal. They breath heavy and fast like that when their nervous and/or scared.
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07/14/08 12:52am
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#1794417
Wildy
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Message To: Drepop In reference to Message Id: 1794411
Wild lil boa
hes proably like 16 inches.and the heavy breathing makes sense now.what kind of breed might it be?
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07/14/08 01:00am
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#1794558
RandyRage
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1794417
Wild lil boa
wild caught are usually abit more aggressive. im sure you can break him of that though. when you buy a snake from somone whos had it, you know its been handled atleast a little bit.
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07/14/08 08:01am
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#1794650
CPBLSOUP
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Message To: RandyRage In reference to Message Id: 1794558
Wild lil boa
he looks like a central american to me, infact im sure of it with his pattern and e cross on his head.
ca’s tend to be more fiesty han your common boa and a bit smaller! thats col that you an go in your back yard and just pick one up
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07/14/08 10:25am
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#1795487
Wildy
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Message To: CPBLSOUP In reference to Message Id: 1794650
Wild lil boa
yeah i was really exited when my bro brought him.there might be more out there but i havent seen my bro so i dont know if he has cauhgt anymore.today has been 5 days since i last fed it and i toseed it a lil white mouse and nailed him fast now hes all curles up digesting his pray.ima let him chill for a week then beging the handling trainig.
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07/14/08 09:28pm
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#1795975
Silenceafable
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1795487
Wild lil boa
a good handling routine is what you need to help calm that boa down. it’s good that you are working on it now. I’ve got a 3-4 ft female (I believe she is a colombianXc.a.), but she is definitely fiesty. she is calming down though because I am handling her every other day for 10-15 minutes, and before she starts getting upset, I put her back. this week, I am going to try to keep her out for 20-30 minutes each time and see what happens. it just takes patience and the ability to take a bite here and there :)
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07/15/08 08:49am
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#1796819
Wildy
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Message To: Silenceafable In reference to Message Id: 1795975
Wild lil boa
i got me some gloves so as soon as i can handle it ima work on it for a few minute see what happens.how long do you think i should wait since it just ate yesterday?
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07/15/08 07:53pm
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#1798299
Quique
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1796819
Wild lil boa
The general rule is that you can resume handling 2 days after feeding.
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07/16/08 05:05pm
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#1831302
Wildy
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Message To: Quique In reference to Message Id: 1798299
Wild lil boa
wasup amigos!!! i been gone for a while but im back with some great news.you guys remember wildy dont you.well evrything is going as planed i been handling it evry so often for about half hour and no hissing or biting at all.another thing i want to say is that i caught another boa im guessing its from the same batch as wildy but it looks way more skinny since i been feeding wildy evry week for the last month.wildy even sheded in 1 peice.for now theyre in the same tank.they dont bother each other so ima keep them together until i get another tank.any questions,coments,or advice is all welcome.thanks and have a nice day.
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08/14/08 10:04pm
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#1831694
Bciaddict
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1831302
Wild lil boa
Hello,
Well, first off...nice little boas! Second, I would recommend that you don’t house them together. You might be able to get away with it for a little while, but as they get older, they will most likely become more aggressive when it comes to feeding, and they my get irritated with each other, Boas can eat other boas, especially if they smell food on them.
Wild caught in Alcapulco, that’s cool! For those people that said that it resembles a Central American boa...Alcapulco is in Mexico...Mexico is in Central America....makes sense.
If they are eating well, and gaining weight consistantly then they should do fine. Little wild caught boas do acclimate well in captivity although they maybe aggressive at first...looks and sounds like yours are doing just fine.
Since you live where they were caught, then the husbandry part should be easy.
I guess the next biggest concern would be parasites.
Amie
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08/15/08 10:13am
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#1831764
Wildy
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Message To: Bciaddict In reference to Message Id: 1831694
Wild lil boa
hey Amie thanks for the compliments and help I greatly apreciate it.today when I woke up I noticed one of my boas was missing!!!so i started digging up the coco fiber and found it rolled up under the fiber.Im just wondering why she likes to do that?I also fed it inside a bucket so the other boa wouldnt bother it. so it just killed it and left it there. now the mouse is jut lying there dead.can they still eat it?
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08/15/08 11:47am
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#1831836
Bciaddict
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1831764
Wild lil boa
I’ve had "escape" scares like that too. LOL!
Some boas will burrow if given a chance. I have a few that will do that. It would be common for boas in the wild to hide under leaves.
If you leave the snake alone with the mouse it probably will eat it after a while. If the mouse isn’t gone in a few hours remove it and try feeding the snake again in a few days.
Amie
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08/15/08 01:36pm
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#1831952
FatSkinny
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Message To: Bciaddict In reference to Message Id: 1831836
Wild lil boa
Nice boas, I’m 99% sure they are not red tail, since I own one myself and the coloration looks a bit different. My boa is about 8 months old and is only 26 inches ( its small in size because its previous owner did not feed it properly). I recommend handling the snake as often as possible (accept after feeding) I take mine out for about an hour or two each day. Even your wild boa should loose its aggressiveness after a few weeks. As far as the tank.... you should definitely separate the two snakes and it seems like you will need a longer tank at least for the larger boa. rule-of-thumb your tank should be at least as long as the snake itself. I would get a water dish that is white in color as Amie has mentioned "mites" are a big issue when it comes to boas and the first thing the snake will try to do when it has been contaminated with these parasites is try to drown them by going in the water. since the mites are tiny and hard to see you should check water dish bottom for little red or black dots. Water should be changed DAILY btw. It also seems like you have a bit too much substrate in your tank. You should try to keep it no more than one inch think, don’t forget it absorbs urine and creates a breeding spot for bacteria. Even with a small amount of substrate you will be surprised that your boa will still manage to hide itself fairly well.
Hope this helps,
Steve
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08/15/08 03:28pm
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#1831968
Wildy
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Message To: FatSkinny In reference to Message Id: 1831952
Wild lil boa
thanks for all the good advice guys.Iam aware about the seperate tanks and all,but since Iam in Mexico were Im getting paid 100 pesos a day equivalent to $10.not thta there isnt any good jobs out here lol but i work in the fields out here kinda like a small rain forest.so it takes a while for me to save up a bit but im guessing ill buy another tank in a week or 2.so far I havent ditected mites knock on wood,but i know what they look like so Ill be aware of that.And i will have to take about half of that subtrate i have.is it bad to have it wet and moist all the time?thanks again guys I apreciate all the help.oh steve how about a few pics of your boa?
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08/15/08 03:47pm
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#1832052
Jab89429
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1793307
Wild lil boa
that is a red til boa. hi my name is josh. i had all kind of snakes.
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08/15/08 04:56pm
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#1832265
Bciaddict
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1831968
Wild lil boa
To answer the red tail or not a red tail question. The boas in this post are both Boa constrictor imperator which are generally found in Central America and into northwestern South America. As far as the term "red tail" that is really a matter of opinion. It is a term used to differentiate between the more colorful Boa constrictor constrictor because they tend to have bright red tails...it’s just a name, not a type. Boas from Mexico are B.c.i. and come in many colors and sizes (some even have bright red tails).
Since the boas are small and have been living together without any problems, then it’s not a big deal for them to stay that way, but when you do have the chance...two tanks would be best. I’ve have had pairs of boas together before without any problems.
Moist substrate shouldn’t be too much of a problem, as long as it is not too wet. Boas live near water, not in it :) If it is too wet, you would see signs of bacterial infections, fungal infections, or other health issues. Since your set up has things they can climb on, they can get away from the substrate if they think it’s too wet for them.
Mites are easy to detect. Internal parasites are more difficult. As long as they eat well, gain weight gradually, have normal "poops", and appear healthy then there is no need to worry. If either of them eats but doesn’t seem to be getting bigger, or the poo seems runny, funny colored, or odd, then internal parasites might be a problem.
I get imported boas from Nicaragua every year. Only once did I have to treat one for internal parasites.
Amie
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08/15/08 08:32pm
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#1832481
Wildy
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Message To: Bciaddict In reference to Message Id: 1832265
Wild lil boa
hey amie its me again.thanks for all the input .what kinds of snakes do you own can you please post a few pics?today when i took it outside i noticed that there skin was rainbowish when i put it on the sunlight.it looked beautifull.and her belly is kinda pinkish im just amzed of how beautifull boas are.truly amaizing.
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08/15/08 11:49pm
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#1832616
Bciaddict
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1832481
Wild lil boa
The rainbow sheen is a good sign of good health! I have 52 boas. Most are B.c.i. 2 are true B.c.c. and a few others are a mix of both. Here are a few that I have...
Nicaraguans:
Some Colombians:
And a dark colored Peruvian "red tail" :)
Amie
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08/16/08 06:04am
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#1832735
Wildy
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Message To: Bciaddict In reference to Message Id: 1832616
Wild lil boa
wow thanks amie im shocked by the beauty in all your snakes.i give you 2 thumbs up for that,and for keeping them all healthy,must be tons of work.now i cant doubt on any advice and answers you give me whitch they`ve all been good and helpfull.heres another picture of wildy.oh by the way,is there a way i can tale what sex they are?
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08/16/08 10:48am
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#1832875
Bciaddict
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1832735
Wild lil boa
There are two ways that I know of to sex boas the size of yours. One involves probing them. I use a method called "rubbing." I’m not sure how to describe the technique...so I’ll see if I can get some pictures to post a step-by-step how to. It might take me a little while to set that up.
Amie
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08/16/08 01:42pm
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#1832919
Wildy
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Message To: Bciaddict In reference to Message Id: 1832875
Wild lil boa
that would be verry helpfull of you please show me.and do you think they would be a good match with a sonoran boa?thanks for all the help amie you rock!!!
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08/16/08 02:36pm
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#1833878
Bciaddict
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Message To: Wildy In reference to Message Id: 1832919
Wild lil boa
I had pictures taken while I was sexing one of my boas.
First I grab the tail just below the vent. Like this:
Then I slowly slide my thumb down the underside of the tail. I press down lightly at the same time:
A male with have a lump about a third to one half of the way down the tail. That is where the tip of the hemipenes are. It will feel like there’s a ball bearing in there. Females don’t have the lump.
I’ve used this technique on boas up to 4 feet long. Once they get over 4 feet long they develop too much muscle in the tail to accurately sex them.
Just don’t apply too much pressure...you don’t want to hurt them.
A less reliable way to sex is visual. Generally males have longer, thicker tails.
Hope this helps,
Amie
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08/17/08 01:18pm
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#1833905
Wildy
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Message To: Bciaddict In reference to Message Id: 1833878
Wild lil boa
wow amie thanks again.ive been waiting since yesterday for a response but it was well worth the wait.guess what wildy is a male and hissy a female anint that great.i did wildy first i felt the lil bearing part and kinda poping feeling.then i did hissy and i felt no bump or anything.can they be bred even if they are from the same batch?oh i think wildy is going into shed.his eyes look opaque.will he still feed?
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08/17/08 01:53pm
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