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 #1784233


Cphill58
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 MVB Bulbs info

I will try to start this thread and answer the best I can any questions that arise. For those of us that like and use the Mercury Vapor Bulbs....I welcome your thoughts and ideas.

Please chime in if you have something to say about the brand/s you have experience with.

Why I bought a Mega ray

I have tried to read all the info I could about MVb’s in the recent months. And now that I have one I have slacked off a bit. I know what I found and I know some of the poor ones out there.

Many brands I considered purchasing at one time or another...because I knew the only MVB I had was about finished.

I searched the web for specs ... I looked on E-bay for cheap prices. I stumbled across Mega Ray, T-Rex UV heat, Power sun and Sun seeker( never buy a sun seeker) ...and even today Nancy dropped another name, which caused me to search it out. Hagen ...a well known company in the aquarium / fish circles. I had no idea they made / sold MVB’s.

I looked in all the retail stores, at various specialty shops and "hole in the wall places" with dusty shelves.

I found Power suns on a dusty shelf way in the back of an old store .....somewhat under priced and I thought... YES ...this is it !! I will come back next week after I research and I will buy it. I came back 2 weeks later and they were dusted off and re- tagged...the price doubled!! And believe me the bulbs were new but old, old stock.

Now I own a Mega-Ray 100 watt SB(self ballasted)... I just could’t find any other bulb with the research and thorough testing and documented evidence to support a purchase.

I felt it was about time I purchased some thing in the way of "The Best" for my reptile. And I hope I can pass on anything I learned to you...

Beth you asked,

Quote:

what about Power Sun MVBs?


What would you like to know?

I will post a picture of the box I received and the links to all the research, comparing the competition.

The box is so clear as to the capabilities of this bulb, I have looked for clear easy to understand info on every package I found ...Nothing is clearer than this Mega Ray box!!... so simple to read...

I would find something retailing in the reptile stores and it was always 49.99-59.99 bucks. just a bit much I thought to myself ...there must be a better deal. Oh well I still had time ....my MVB bulb was still ok ...only 8-9 months old..I had 3 months to go.

Mega ray is sold on line direct for 39.99 and 10.00 shipping. I thought what the heck ...if I am gonna splurge I might as well take advantage of the shipping and get a temp gun too.

So here I am all full of it and then some....lol



This chart is on every box Mega Ray ships...it shows the distance and micro watts of UVB out put and compares it to sunlight.


The other side of the box clearly states the longevity factor. And the fact that it’s decay rate is far less than the competition!

The front for quick reference.




Here is the cool little temp gun ...quite handy I measure anything and everyone....lol

Here are some links ...the studies are lenghty to read but I was just fascinated by it all...yeah I am a nerd... Not!!

Link

Link

Thanks for allowing me to post this long wind....
Any questions I can answer or search out ...I will

CP



07/06/08  06:36am

 #1784238


Newfgal
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1784233


 MVB Bulbs info

This is a great post as well CP. Unfortunately, being from Canada, i cannot find the Mega ray anywhere here, but the Hagen 125 whatt that i use is a great brand also, i have seen some great changes in my dragons with this light, and after what spike went through with one of the harmfull lights, he sure needed it, lol...but for any of you who are planning to switch and are new to these light, they do need some special care, so be sure you research them well, and follow the instructions that come with the light, and i also bought a temp gun as well, it’s the best way to go for giving your babies the best care possible...good luck everyone, and lets keep these posts bumped...

Nancy.



07/06/08  06:51am

 #1784244


Cphill58
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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1784238


 MVB Bulbs info

Nancy the Mega Ray has to be ordered from the main office in Florida...and I am sure that may be a problem for you with dollar conversions and duties/ taxes....bummer

But I looked up the hagen bulb briefly ....need to investigate that some more ...i hadn’t heard of it untill you mentioned it.

Special care ...wiping finger prints off it .... no switching off & on repeatedly ... No jarring and shock to the sensitive filament...no moisture contact directly to bub face....... never use a dimmer switch...

Cp



07/06/08  07:03am

 #1784250


Newfgal
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1784244


 MVB Bulbs info

Yes, thats correct. The only thing i don’t like is...so the other day we had a real bad thunder and lightening storm, so the power goes out all over town for like 2-3 min, it comes back on but not the light, lol, The dragons are looking at me like,"bed time already" lol, it confused them since they could see that it was still day light, lol it was cute...

Nancy.



07/06/08  07:13am

 #1784281


Newfgal
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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1784250


 MVB Bulbs info

bump...



07/06/08  08:51am

 #1784374


Newfgal
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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1784281


 MVB Bulbs info

bump again...



07/06/08  11:34am

 #1784492


Newfgal
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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1784374


 MVB Bulbs info

bump



07/06/08  01:36pm

 #1784592


Cphill58
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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1784492


 MVB Bulbs info

Its ok gal ...I will update the thread and add info ...if no one has questions I can dig it up again ..Shame to see so many pages of bumps just to get to the meat of the subject.

Previous SUNSEEKER search revealed this ...and some mention of the Power Sun too...
Link



07/06/08  03:09pm

 #1784603


Newfgal
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1784592


 MVB Bulbs info

That info was intresting, every little bit counts CP, thanks...and ok, lol, i will cut back on the bumps hehe...

Nancy.



07/06/08  03:16pm

 #1784866


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1784603


 MVB Bulbs info

how big of tank should i use a MVB?



07/06/08  07:23pm

 #1784982


Cphill58
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  Message To: Kleie777   In reference to Message Id: 1784866


 MVB Bulbs info

Hi Kliee... A 100 watt bulb will create a hot spot on tile at 103 F at 12" ...the ambient temps can get very hot during the summer...so ventilation is important ...sometimes I would get home and my tank cool side had reached 88-90 ....ambient air temps

I dont’ use tanks and it has been a while since I measured them ...I remember my fish tanks were all 60 gallons and up and wre about 4 ft long and 20 inches tall and ??? deep

Just do some tests with a 90 watt flood light and see how hot it gets ... at 12-13 " away and then measure the cool side too. With your new digital probe thermometer you ran out and got ...for 10 bucks .

CP



07/06/08  08:32pm

 #1785057


Newfgal
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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1784982


 MVB Bulbs info

lol, and a 40 gallon breeder would do for a mvb, but i would not use one in anything smaller than that, or your beardie may over heat...

Nancy.



07/06/08  09:14pm

 #1785140


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1785057


 MVB Bulbs info

I just wanted to know how the POwerSun ranks in your opinion & studies. I buy Powersuns and alos use 10.0 reptisuns on other tanks. The MVB Powersun is on some of my adults. Thanks so much for your time. Externally ballasted means it needs something else..it has to have some sort of black box top be plugged into????? Thanks again, B

What exactly does ballasted mean?



07/06/08  10:14pm

 #1785299


Cphill58
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  Message To: BeardiePal   In reference to Message Id: 1785140


 MVB Bulbs info

As you probably know in the USA all of our fluorescent lighting is externally ballasted. In the fixture there is an additional black box that provides the stable and high current to light the gas that these bulbs need to emit light.

Since the advent of the self ballasted bulbs (SB) technology has allowed a regular screw base bulb to contain the ballast inside and eliminate the exterior box and added expense.

The pros and cons to this are lower cost and ease of installation ..vs.. more delicate and with rough handling shorter life span.

How does the powersun compare ...as with all the comparisons done by mega ray ...2 things are of primary interest ...

The actual uW/c2 ( micro watts) out put as stated by the manufacturer and the decay rate from new to aged bulbs.

I had a T-Rex UV heat and I knew it’s time was up so I started my quest to find pricing and quality that I could trust and feel re-assured was accurate.....What I found was Mega -Ray.... no one else has this info /test/ research...or dedication to the reptile/ animal world as these folks do.

If this were a large scam to convince the consumer to buy their product i doubt that they would have spent so much time and effort to provide and inform us.

Why are the labs and zoos hailing the products as better or exceptional?
And the UVB/ Solar meter club ... folks measuring and recording data from natural sunlight and bulbs..I will join that soon when I receive my UVB meter.

Here is a direct study chart concerning the POWER SUN and the out put and decay rate.

Link

As it shows a lesser degree of output and faster decay rate
Mega Ray output is 2x the output of power sun and maintains that output far longer.

In these pages are sooo much more ...I just can’t get enough ....

Hope that is what you were looking for......
CP



07/07/08  12:17am

 #1785503


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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1785299


 MVB Bulbs info

right now i have two of the exoterra solar glo mvbs. (they were readily available locally.. though ill probably upgrade back to megaray and keep these as backups) i had a mega ray and loved it (mass of storms while i was at work fizzled it out though). my first mvb was a powersun.. picked t up for ursula since she was in super sorry shape when i got her.. she perked up and start eating like a pig after i put her under the powersun.. watching her response i picked up a megaray for bonzai and he loves it.
and the kickoff thing where it wont turn back on is a safety feature.. they wont turn back on right away because of how hot they get.. if they flicked back on automatically then theyre more likely to pop.
sunseekers are terrible.. one popped on me.. no one was near it and we heard a sound like a gunshot.. it had exploded glass everywhere. bonzai was terrified and hid for a few days after. the only thing i can figure is that it had a weak spot and it finally gave out with the heat.
on a side-note.. has anyone else ever used the exoterra mvbs?.. my beardies seem to be doing okay with them and a local shop has them priced at only 20.99 a piece.. so i picked them up and so far so good.



07/07/08  09:00am

 #1785535


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  Message To: Smurfzilla   In reference to Message Id: 1785503


 MVB Bulbs info

Geeze, that is terrible about the bulb exploding like that..good thing the poor guy was not under it..anyway, yes i use those bulbs, they are made by Hagen, and they are great in my opinion, the dragons are healthy and happy, and i am happy with that, lol...

Nancy.



07/07/08  09:35am

 #1785820


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1785535


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bump for everyone asking about these lights today!!! lol.



07/07/08  03:06pm

 #1788248


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1785820


 MVB Bulbs info

CP, where are you? lol, anyway, i have to get this off my chest b/c it’s bugging me! So, my 3 dragons all have the same MVB, same whattage, the Hagen 125 whatt solar glo, and they have been great, BUT, i have noticed something, my younger male has been sleeping alot, and i have thought nothing over it due to the fact that this is all normal, and considering he does get up to bask, eat, poop, etc, but i sat back this morning and had a look at all three of the lights, and noticed his light was not quite as bright as the other two lights, and you know with these bulbs they have that bluish type colour to them when you switch them off, well his don’t. So fortunately, i do keep new backups here b/c you never know, turned it on and it is all good like the other two..So i’m thinking maybe this one has some kind of defect? I’m not sure, it could be nothing, but it may actually be something, so i will be keeping an eye on him for behavior change, and take it from there..but what do you think about this?..Thanks,

Nancy.



07/09/08  10:48am

 #1788282


Cphill58
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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1788248


 MVB Bulbs info

Nancy, I have been working ....2 jobs back to back and crashing like a rock at night ....lol

Since construction has been so slow I took on a more than I could handle and whilst finishing one job ...started another.

You know ...you would be a perfect candidate to puchase the SOLAR Meter 6.2 ...that way you could measure and test your bulbs...and never have any doubt about the UVB output. I know it is kind of pricey to buy one. 169.00 US = shipping...I want one sooooo bad.

Also there is a solarmeter club you can join online and members close to you ...if any willshare and meassure your light / s output , that is what I understand , anyway ...

Here is the link
http://pets.groups.>>>>yahoo.com/group/UVB_Meter_Owners/

Additionally you need to watch this video on care and maintenance of your bulbs.

http://www.you>>>>tube.com/watch?v=BPXjDvrv92g

REMOVE THE ARROWS to make these work....

If you suspect a bad bulb ...and you have more than one ...play swicth the light with the other one and see if things change....

Miss ya all

Cp



07/09/08  11:12am

 #1788338


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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1788282


 MVB Bulbs info

wow! you have been keeping busy, lol, don’t work to hard now, lol..

And you weren’t kidding about the price, lol, but yes, since i will only have MVB’s for my guys, i will have to get one here in the near future..and thanks for the links and your time CP, it means alot...

thanks again, and we miss you as well, lol

Nancy.






07/09/08  11:42am

 #1788418


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1788338


 MVB Bulbs info

hey is there acually a breeder in these forums and not just ppl that think they know everything



07/09/08  12:55pm

 #1788432


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  Message To: Rick Ross   In reference to Message Id: 1788418


 MVB Bulbs info

Yes there are Rick? but what exactly do you mean by that? Thats not nice at all, or, it doesn’t sound nice anyway..

Also this thread was created to talk about uvb’s, so maybe you should start a post that say’s: Looking for Breeders, or whatever, good luck!

Nancy.



07/09/08  01:04pm

 #1788490


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1788432


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i was trying to make a point i guess that unless someone is a pro breeder they dont have room to bite my head off thats all



07/09/08  01:34pm

 #1788536


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  Message To: Rick Ross   In reference to Message Id: 1788490


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Rick ...did I bite your head off...I don’t breed and I don’t post there....so just to make it clear I have never made contact with you before.

So go get your attitude checked and if you have questions about lights ...c’mon back and chat a spell ...maybe I can offer you some kool-aid...don’t you kids like kool-aid?

Want some cookies to go with that?

CP



07/09/08  02:17pm

 #1788604


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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1788536


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lol, funny CP, but i do believe that remark he made was for me, and if so, i was not biting your head off at all, so i am sorry if it sounded like that, i really am.

Nancy.



07/09/08  03:13pm

 #1788615


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  Message To: Newfgal   In reference to Message Id: 1788604


 MVB Bulbs info

I know it’s not fair to read into the typed message. If it is not clear it is proper to check first ...and not accuse the responder of anything until checked out....

I have often sounded harsh due to my zealousness to answer / help.
I have to re-read what I am saying in order to approach questions with KID GLOVES for fear that my short and to the point answers aren’t’t misconstrued as aggressive/ angry.

Psych. 101 10Th grade courses...

So having failed 10Th grade what do you suggest ....

CP



07/09/08  03:26pm

 #1788623


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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1788536


 MVB Bulbs info

whoa damn i pissed in someones chereos lmao



07/09/08  03:33pm

 #1789470


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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1784233


 MVB Bulbs info

Bump!
!
!



07/10/08  07:51am

 #1792307


Cphill58
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  Message To: Rallaster   In reference to Message Id: 1789470


 MVB Bulbs info

Here is an interesting video ...it should apply to any MVB ...not just Mega Ray
Basic claening and maintenace of MVB (sb) bulbs

It is on you tube ..so I am adding some >>>> characters in the address...just remove the >>> ’s to make it work..

http://www.you>>>>>>tube.com/watch?v=BPXjDvrv92g

CP



07/12/08  11:25am

 #1792315


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  Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 1784233


 MVB Bulbs info

Awesome vid CP, who new that the base could get that bad when a light bulb is screwed in the fixture?



07/12/08  11:32am
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