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 Thermostats proportional vs on/off

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Proportional verses On/Off

The Helix DBS-1000 is what is called a "proportional" thermostat. Helix Controls was one of the pioneers in reptile thermostats using this technology and Helix Thermostats have been around for many years now. "proportional" refers to the gradual adjustment (up and down) of power output until the set temperature is maintained. Other, non proportional thermostats use an "on/off" approach and usually have a 1 or 2 degree (or more in cheaper ones) "slop". They turn on 100% when the temperature falls a degree or two below the set point and they stay on until the temperature gets a degree or two above the set point. This means that if you set your thermostat at 80 degrees your actual temps can vary between as low as 76-78 degrees and as high as 82-84 degrees. A roller coaster ride for your animals. You can think of the proportional thermostat more like a light dimmer with a brain constantly adjusting itself to maintain a much more precise temperature. The "slop" in proportional thermostats is usually measured in 1/10 degrees. Proportional models also offer a very easy to use "Night Drop" capability. This makes it super easy to cycle your animals during breeding season without controlling the temperature of the whole room.

Proportional thermostats are just about required if you are using it for an incubator. The "slop" in on/off models can be a real problem. Especially in cheaper, less accurate models. We prefer them for all of our animals though the on/off models will work well if used for supplemental basking areas or in situations where economy is key. Just remember, like with anything else, you get what you pay for. DON’T make the mistake of keeping your multi thousand dollar high end herp collection on heat controlled by a cheap thermostat. Just about any "old timer" in the reptile business can tell you a story about "cooking" some prized animals. We are also strong advocates of "back up" thermostats used in line with your primary unit set just a few degrees higher. An important note in that application: You can’t use a proportional thermostat to back up a proportional thermostat. Set up your proportional unit as the primary thermostat and use the on/off model to back it up.



Does anyone have any thoughts... I am currently using the Ranco ETC-111000. I have also looked into the herpstats and have gotten good reviews from professional breeders, but I still have concerns on proportional versus on/off. Thanks!



08/17/08  07:21pm

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  Message To: Jwsurfergirl   In reference to Message Id: 1834208


 Thermostats proportional vs on/off

What thoughts are you looking for? In what application? IE, heating a tub, heating a rack, controlling an incubator?

I use Ranco for my tubs, and I use Helix for my racks and my incubator.

I think that the BEST four thermostats that you can buy today are: Ranco and Johnson’s for the On/Off type and Helix and Herpstat for your proportionals.

Proportionals are going to be much more precise since they provide constant power to maintain a steady temp, rather than an on/off that works like a thermostat in your home. Reach a certain temp, turn off, drop below another set temp - turn back on.



08/18/08  05:41am

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  Message To: Rabernet   In reference to Message Id: 1834620


 Thermostats proportional vs on/off

We are using a ranco for our rack .. and we arent anywhere close to needing an incubator but im sure a proprtional would be best. I have heard or read somewhere that the proportional uses more electricity b/c it shuts off and on many times a milisecond to maintain temps...do you have any thoughts on this at all?



08/18/08  12:16pm

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  Message To: Jwsurfergirl   In reference to Message Id: 1834842


 Thermostats proportional vs on/off

I can’t say that I’ve noticed any significant changes in my electric bill as a result of running proportional thermostats.



08/18/08  06:03pm

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  Message To: Rabernet   In reference to Message Id: 1835349


 Thermostats proportional vs on/off

The proportional is the more energy efficient system. It never allows the cage to cool down too low and then use lots of energy to heat back up. Rather, it will slow down the supply of electricity to the source and maintain it. With an efficient cage, a proportional thermostat will usually only be running your heat source at 0-10% to maintain your temperature.

This also extends the life of your theat source. Turning on and off causes surges and ultimately winds up blowing your heat source. Don’t believe me...try turining your lights in your house on and off 40 of 50 times in a minute and see if one of the bulbs blows out lol.

I don’t use non-proportional thermostats. For me, eventhough I do not make a ton of money, it is well worth the peace of mind while I am away. But if you really think its a good to have both proportional and non-proportional...most of the herpstats offer a switch from proportional to non-proportional mode.



08/18/08  07:40pm


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