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 HR2811

All right reptiles lovers....here we go again, when will they quit?





WARNING: Momentum For HR2811

This is a letter sent by Representative Kendrick Meek of Florida to his colleagues in the US House of Representatives looking for new
sponsors to his recently introduced HR 2811. This is the companion bill to Senator Bill Nelson’s S373. Also known as "The Python Ban". Rep
Meek is looking to capitalize on all the recent publicity and put his bill in the limelight. As soon as it happens our intelligence gathering folks
in Washington, DC help USARK bring it to the Reptile Nation. Stay tuned there is much more coming soon. Prepare yourselves for the big
fight!



HELP PREVENT THE IMPORTATION AND TRADE OF
DANGEROUS BURMESE PYTHONS

From: The Honorable Kendrick B. Meek
Sent By: ali..gov
Bill: H.R. 2811
Date: 7/9/2009

HELP PREVENT THE IMPORTATION AND TRADE OF DANGEROUS BURMESE PYTHONS

Dear Colleague,

This month, a 2 year old girl in Florida was killed by a Burmese Python which was kept as a pet in the girl’s home. Although this
particular owner did not have a permit for the snake, many people across the country do and have still been injured or killed by them. Incidents of
injury and death from Burmese Pythons have been reported from Florida to Maine to California. These dangerous snakes are lawfully imported
from Southeast Asia and are legally sold in the United States.

Burmese Pythons can grow to be up to 20 feet long and weigh over 250 lbs. Not only do they pose a risk when they escape their tanks,
but as they begin to reach their adult size many owners turn them loose, posing a danger to children, pets and delicate ecosystems. Burmese
Pythons are strong swimmers and highly adaptable, making their home in almost any warm climate. More than 600 of these pythons were
removed from the Florida Everglades Park between 2002 and 2007, and these invasive species feed on many of the endangered native species
found there, including white ibis, limpkin, round-tailed muskrats, and woodrats.

The import and trade of Burmese Pythons must be stopped. That is why I introduced H.R. 2811, to include these pythons on the list of
dangerous animals, banning their importation and sale in the United States.

Please join me in co-sponsoring this important bill to protect children, pets and endangered ecosystems from dangerous Burmese
Pythons.

For more information about this issue or to become a sponsor of H.R. 2811, please contact Ali DiMatteo in my office at
ali..gov or 5-4506.



Sincerely,

KENDRICK B. MEEK

Member of Congress






Looks like we have another fight on our hands, everyone needs to get ready to start the letters again when the word is given from PIJAC and USARK.
07/10/09  12:56am

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   Message To: JJ Animal Trax   In reference to Message Id: 2037006


 HR2811

They will quit where there is no ignorance in this world. Wait a a minute...
07/10/09  07:06am

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   Message To: GreySky   In reference to Message Id: 2037035


 HR2811

Yeah, and guess whats gonna happen when they ban pythons? Reptile stores make less cash people get their loved pets tooken away, and then whats gonna happen is, no one will care, they will just breed them and ignore the law anyway.
07/10/09  10:31am

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 HR2811

i say thier all just a bunch a retards. save them selfves a bunch a valubale time if they didnt do it
07/10/09  12:30pm

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Atrax27407
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   Message To: Rattler 98   In reference to Message Id: 2037197


 HR2811

It would ban the importation and sale of Burmese Pythons (not a bad idea if we include Nile Monitors and a few other noxious species). There is no mention of restricting captive-bred specimens. There is certainly enough captive stock in the U.S. to supply the pet trade.

BTW, don’t blame the legislators but rather the irresponsible pet owners who allowed their pets to escape or just plain released them into the ecology. Florida has become an ecological disater with all of the non-native species there.



07/10/09  03:43pm

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   Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 2037273


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Atrax,

they are actually finding that the Joe sixpack may not be where the blame rests when it comes to the burm prob in FL. Blood tests that they have done on the wild population actually shows that the wild population is related, meaning the population is probably decendant from 1-2 pairs of burms that escaped after hurrican andrew ripped up breeding facilities in the early 90’s.

Also, they won’t stop at the big 5 or large lizards, the ppl behind this (PETA, HSUS). Will stop when it is illegal to own any and all herps. And YES, i do blame SOME legislators for selling themselves out to various agenda based organizations.

When it says importation and sale, that means of the Burmese specie, not just wild caught, that means that it will be illegal to sell ALL Burms, wild and captive bred.


I believe in a more strict permit system for large reptiles, but not an all out ban. Many ppl love their burms and retics even more than we love our anoles. And that should never be taken away.



07/10/09  04:35pm

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   Message To: JJ Animal Trax   In reference to Message Id: 2037289


 HR2811

I disagree. Some sources estimate a possible 150,000 Burmese pythons in the everglades. That many cannot possibly be born by "1-2 pairs of burms". Yes I agree that many people love their snakes but many owners are irresponsible and release their large snakes into the wild. A burmese python is a powerful reptile. Surely you have heard many stories of children being killed by them as well. They are large enough to kill a small alligator and pose a serious threat to various endangered species in the Everglades.
07/10/09  07:57pm

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JJ Animal Trax
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   Message To: Coolguy132435   In reference to Message Id: 2037389


 HR2811

your sources are wrong, the reliable estimates have been less than 10,000. And that is babies and adults. Adults would number less than 1,000.

Even the most radical estimates by agenda pushing organizations are 30,000. and that is only because of them searching the glades through and over, finding 300 and using the 1% rule. That estimate in its-self is skewed for many reasons.

Fact of the matter is that if there were even anywhere near 30,000 burms, many many more would be reported and caught. 150,000 isn’t even by any crazy stretch of the imagination near being right.
07/10/09  09:36pm

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   Message To: Coolguy132435   In reference to Message Id: 2037389


 HR2811

your sources are wrong, the reliable estimates have been less than 10,000. And that is babies and adults. Adults would number less than 1,000.

Even the most radical estimates by agenda pushing organizations are 30,000. and that is only because of them searching the glades through and over, finding 300 and using the 1% rule. That estimate in its-self is skewed for many reasons.

Fact of the matter is that if there were even anywhere near 30,000 burms, many many more would be reported and caught. 150,000 isn’t even by any crazy stretch of the imagination near being right.
07/10/09  09:37pm

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 HR2811

sorry about the double post, i wish there was a way to delete those
07/10/09  09:38pm

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   Message To: JJ Animal Trax   In reference to Message Id: 2037468


 HR2811

No there is not enough captive bred in the US to supply the pet trade. There are less than a handful of Savannah monitors that have been successfully bred in captivity for instance, most monitors in general that are claimed to be captive bred are not. Monitor enthusiasts are going to be one of the hardest hit because so many of them are not captive bred. Saying that there is enough captive bred stock in the us is wrong, not everything is as easy to breed as anoles.



11/07/09  05:28am

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   Message To: Bryce91   In reference to Message Id: 2092910


 HR2811

What I basically meant to say is first pythons then something else, then something else, then something else...... We should just ban the breeding of dogs since they attack people and cause more injuries than pythons. It’s ridiculous.
11/07/09  05:32am

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   Message To: Bryce91   In reference to Message Id: 2092911


 HR2811

Why ressurect a several months’ old post. Go to south Florida to see the chaos that imported species have caused to the environment there.
11/07/09  07:47am


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