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 #1339614


Littlenicki
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 Anolis Allisoni

Hey, just wondering if anybody on this forum owns a Blue Anole?



06/29/07  06:08pm

 #1339618


G-Anole
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  Message To: Littlenicki   In reference to Message Id: 1339614


 Anolis Allisoni

I heard from Atrax that they are rare species. But youíd have to catch one outside of the U.S. If youíre from here.



06/29/07  06:11pm

 #1340941


Atrax27407
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  Message To: G-Anole   In reference to Message Id: 1339618


 Anolis Allisoni

Please donít put words in my mouth. I never told you (or anyone else) that Anolis allisoni is a rare species. They are simply not native to the US and have not established a breeding colony like some other imported species. On the other hand, blue morphs of Anolis carolinensis (Green Anole) are rare and occur at the ratio of 1:20,000. Also, common names like "Blue Anole" and "Bahamian Anole" are misleading since they do not accurately or uniquely describe a particular species. They are used to describe several.



06/30/07  07:25pm

 #1340960


G-Anole
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  Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1340941


 Anolis Allisoni

Sorry. I misunderstood what you said then.



06/30/07  07:35pm

 #1341010


Lilnicky_074
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  Message To: G-Anole   In reference to Message Id: 1340960


 Anolis Allisoni

whas so rare about a green anole ?



06/30/07  08:12pm

 #1341011


Lilnicky_074
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  Message To: G-Anole   In reference to Message Id: 1340960


 Anolis Allisoni

whas so rare about a green anole ?



06/30/07  08:12pm

 #1341083


G-Anole
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  Message To: Lilnicky_074   In reference to Message Id: 1341011


 Anolis Allisoni

nothing. I was talking about blue anoles anyway.



06/30/07  09:12pm

 #1341185


Atrax27407
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  Message To: G-Anole   In reference to Message Id: 1341083


 Anolis Allisoni

Wrong. Color morphs of Anolis carolinensis are rare and valuable. That is because they occur so infrequently. For example, besides the blue morph which has a lack of yellow pigment, there is a yellow morph (which I have) that has a lack of both brown and blue pigment. There are others as well that show some degree of lack of normal pigmentation. Although I have never seen one, logically there must be an albino of A. carolinensis. All of these occur infrequently in nature and that is compounded by the fact that they are easy targets for predators and very seldom survive for more than a couple of weeks. They are difficult to breed in captivity because breeding pairs are difficult to find. I hope to have some offspring from my yellow morph male later this year but it will probably take a couple of generations (depending on the genetic linkage) to produce a more or less pure strain.
Oh yes, the term "Blue Anole" is applied to other species besdies A. allisoni. For example, Anolis extremus, Anolis cooki, and others. That is why common names are misleading to say the least.



06/30/07  11:08pm

 #1341187


Atrax27407
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  Message To: G-Anole   In reference to Message Id: 1341083


 Anolis Allisoni

Wrong. Color morphs of Anolis carolinensis are rare and valuable. That is because they occur so infrequently. For example, besides the blue morph which has a lack of yellow pigment, there is a yellow morph (which I have) that has a lack of both brown and blue pigment. There are others as well that show some degree of lack of normal pigmentation. Although I have never seen one, logically there must be an albino of A. carolinensis. All of these occur infrequently in nature and that is compounded by the fact that they are easy targets for predators and very seldom survive for more than a couple of weeks. They are difficult to breed in captivity because breeding pairs are difficult to find. I hope to have some offspring from my yellow morph male later this year but it will probably take a couple of generations (depending on the genetic linkage) to produce a more or less pure strain.
Oh yes, the term "Blue Anole" is applied to other species besdies A. allisoni. For example, Anolis extremus, Anolis cooki, and others. That is why common names are misleading to say the least.



06/30/07  11:09pm

 #1341967


G-Anole
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  Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1341187


 Anolis Allisoni

oh. See, I only know about Green and Brown Anoles. Even though I didnít know about that (what you said above this post). So I guess I donít know so much about Green Anoles. I kind of do know, (like their habitats, and what they eat, and what they do), but I donít know much about the morphs. I thought you were talking about a completely different anole.
BTW, good luck with the anole having offspring.
And also, did you find this out yourself (like a scientist), or did you look on the internet? because you have a good amount of information that I want to know, so I donít make any mistakes with any of a my anoles in the future.



07/01/07  06:21pm

 #1342098


Atrax27407
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  Message To: G-Anole   In reference to Message Id: 1341967


 Anolis Allisoni

I have been raising Anoles since my college days in 1963. Besides, the research and academic friends that I have gained through the years, I have some experience in this field.



07/01/07  08:53pm

 #1351630


DragonTU84
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  Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1342098


 Anolis Allisoni

I have a question. Has anyone ever raised an Anolis Allisoni in the US?? Are there any breeders for it out there, or is it illegal to own one in the United States???

Also, I may be interested in later purchasing a blue color-morph green anole. Does anyone know a good place to purchase one??



07/09/07  01:41pm

 #1351840


DragonTU84
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  Message To: DragonTU84   In reference to Message Id: 1351630


 Anolis Allisoni

BUMP!!!!!!!!

I would like further info. on Anolis Allisoni and the blue-phased green anole!! I am still waiting for responses!! Is it OK to purchase or own Anolis Allisoni in the US?? And if so, does anyone know any reputable distributors / breeders??

And does anyone know where I can buy a blue-phased green anole, or a place that is very reliable where I can be put on a waiting list for one??

ANOLIS ALLISONI:



BLUE-PHASED GREEN ANOLE:



07/09/07  04:22pm

 #1355715


DragonTU84
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  Message To: DragonTU84   In reference to Message Id: 1351840


 Anolis Allisoni

Pic of a GORGEOUS blue-phased anole from an anole care book. Isnít it LOVELY!!!! It is a pure blue morph, so it lacks all the yellow pigment (axanthic).



07/12/07  01:32pm

 #1355887


DragonTU84
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  Message To: DragonTU84   In reference to Message Id: 1355715


 Anolis Allisoni

Sorry, let me repost the pic:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e399/DragonTU84/Blue-phased.jpg?t=1184265958



07/12/07  03:30pm

 #1379280


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  Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1342098


 Anolis Allisoni

hi there, I donít breed any anolis. I live in Fl and just have bunches around the house and love them. Even a few green ones, however I found a baby albino anoli yesterday and yes he has red eyes, very skinny and I am not sure if he is eating or what I could do to prevent it from being prey. any ideas, he is really sweet and sits on my hand for hrs if I let him.



07/29/07  02:05pm

 #1379328


DragonTU84
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  Message To: Iggyqueen   In reference to Message Id: 1379280


 Anolis Allisoni

If you choose to take it in and take care of it and raise it as a pet, then you need to get the proper equipment and items in order to take care of your new pet. Read Atraxís guide on here, and it should cover all the basics you need to know for taking care of and raising green anoles. Your best bet for the little guy if you want to assure his safety and that he lives a long and happy life is for him to live in captivity. Albinos, along with the other color morphs, have little chances of surviving in the wild because they can be easily spotted by both predator and prey, so they will have problems not only hiding from predators but from catching food as well, since green anoles use their green and brown camouflage to their advantage in order to catch their prey, which consists of leafhoppers, crickets, moths, ya name it.

Yet if you decide to raise it or give it to somebody to raise, please introduce them to this forum and make sure they read Atraxís CareSheet for all that you or they will need to take care of the anole. It could also be sick if it is letting you handle it for hours on end. Or it could be frightened and trying to play dead when you handle it. When you see it, do you usually see it laying around a lot or active and jumping around and trying to catch insects or exploring its environment??

I hope this helps. Good luck with your new find, and possible pet!



07/29/07  02:57pm

 #1379353


Iggyqueen
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  Message To: DragonTU84   In reference to Message Id: 1379328


 Anolis Allisoni

thank you for your help. I think he might not be doing well, he just sits there and even when he sat on my foot and lots of small tiny flys came up he never tries to catch them, he really does not seem to be scared of me, he will totally jump on my finger if I put it out, that so weired about him, but I have not seen him catch anything, he does not even try and honestly I donít even know what a baby eats at this point and he is just a baby very very tiny. I never seen an albino, the green ones are rare enough these days. I will read up on the atraxís guide just in case. Thanks for taking the time to answer me back.



07/29/07  03:22pm

 #1381463


Newanolemommy
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  Message To: Iggyqueen   In reference to Message Id: 1379353


 Anolis Allisoni

you should post pics of it



07/31/07  12:07am

 #1396631


Anole alex
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  Message To: Newanolemommy   In reference to Message Id: 1381463


 Anolis Allisoni

BUMP!!!!



08/09/07  10:14pm

 #1396846


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  Message To: Anole alex   In reference to Message Id: 1396631


 Anolis Allisoni

well i read in the green anole care book that they are rarer then 1 in 20.000 its more like 1 in 70.000 i have been trying for about 2 years now to find a blue phase green anole but i still havent had any luck butt they said the most i would have to pay is 100 dollorís so if i find one or even 2 im goin to be the happyíst persone in the world yaaaa



08/10/07  12:25am

 #1396877


DragonTU84
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  Message To: Pink801   In reference to Message Id: 1396846


 Anolis Allisoni

I read in another green anole care book, and I believe it also said the chances of finding one are 1:20,000. I read this on several online sources too. And I donít discredit Bob Carmany (Atrax) neither with his YEARS of experience!! He has been doing herping since 1963, after all!!



08/10/07  12:50am

 #1399003


DragonTU84
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  Message To: Iggyqueen   In reference to Message Id: 1379353


 Anolis Allisoni

Do you think you could post pics for us to see of this baby albino IggyQueen?? We sure would love to see it.

Oh, and babies eat pinhead crickets and also small leafhoppers and wingless fruit flies.



08/11/07  03:29pm

 #1399234


Atrax27407
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  Message To: DragonTU84   In reference to Message Id: 1399003


 Anolis Allisoni

Iggyqueen has not posted since he/she was asked for a picture. Until he does, I consider this just another hoax by someone who wants to get attention.



08/11/07  06:56pm

 #1483052


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  Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1399234


 Anolis Allisoni

What do you think of this Atrax? Is this ligit? I am talking to a breeder who says he can get me one of these guys. Iím pretty skeptical tho...

http://news.mongabay.com/2007/0307-blue_anole.html



10/18/07  09:06pm

 #1483057


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  Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1399234


 Anolis Allisoni

What do you think about this Atrax? Is this ligit? I am talking to a breeder who says he can get one. Iím pretty skeptical tho...

Pure Blue Anole Link



10/18/07  09:11pm

 #1484290


Atrax27407
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  Message To: Wgray1   In reference to Message Id: 1483057


 Anolis Allisoni

The information about A. gorgonae is esentially correct. They are more common on Isla Gorgona than the article indicates. I know of a single specimen (a male) in the US at the present time. As to whether the site is legimate, your guess is as good as mine. I do know that export of the species is prohibited except under very strict scientific constraints.



10/20/07  11:27am

 #1525877


Stog
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  Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1341187


 Anolis Allisoni

Atrax, there are species called bahaman anole i have one as a pet (just letting you know).



11/25/07  01:56pm

 #1525893


Atrax27407
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  Message To: Stog   In reference to Message Id: 1525877


 Anolis Allisoni

No you donít, you have a specimen of Anolis sagrei. Bhamanian Anoles extist only as a marketing tool. The legimate common name for Anolis sagrei is the Cuban Brown Anole.



11/25/07  02:04pm

 #1525896


Atrax27407
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  Message To: Stog   In reference to Message Id: 1525877


 Anolis Allisoni

No you donít, you have a specimen of Anolis sagrei. Bahaman Anoles extist only as a marketing tool. The legimate common name for Anolis sagrei is the Cuban Brown Anole.



11/25/07  02:05pm
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