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 #1825989


Animal crazy
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 What shall i do

i bought 3 green anoles about 3 months ago when i came back from holiday yesterday there were some eggs in the tank the problem is i have read that they should be moved into an incubater but mine are not buried they are in the middle of loads of leaf stems so i cannot get them i thought i may leave them in the tank but alot of the base is covered in water so they may drown when they hatch does anyone have any idea on how to move them without damaging them.
08/10/08  01:46pm

 #1826118


Atrax27407
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1825989


 What shall i do

Why do you have so much water in the enclosure? The plant bases shouldn’t be covered with it.
08/10/08  04:00pm

 #1826138


Animal crazy
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   Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1826118


 What shall i do

the plants are stuck to the wall and the reason there is water on the bottom is because there are african clawed toads in the water
08/10/08  04:24pm

 #1826140


Animal crazy
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1826138


 What shall i do

oops african clawed FROGS not toads
08/10/08  04:25pm

 #1826358


Atrax27407
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1826140


 What shall i do

Here we go again. Don’t mix species! The lifespan of one (or both) will be compromised. Anoles are NOT semi-aquatic!
08/10/08  07:24pm

 #1826771


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   Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1826358


 What shall i do

The anoles used to live in a cage with substrate on the floor they never touched it when i put water there it made no difference they are always bright green and there are no spots behind their eyes and they live with 3 other kinds of animal
08/11/08  04:41am

 #1826774


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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1826771


 What shall i do

also the anoles spend more time basking in the shallow end of the water then they ever spent on any kind of substrate
08/11/08  04:53am

 #1826789


ReptiGal94
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1826774


 What shall i do

You just don’t get it, do you? I’m not trying to be rude but they are NOT meant to be together!
Have you ever seen an anole and an African clawed frog together in the wild? All of them need their own territories and care.Either you’re freezing your anoles or you’re baking your frogs in that tank.They have different needs.They both have different diseases.While a disease from an African Clawed Frog may not hurt your frog, it could easily kill an anole.And what if your anole has a disease that you can’t notice and it kills your frogs? Not taking care of those needs and mixing species will just give you stressed out and sick animals.
Wouldn’t it be much more worth it to spend an extra $50 on a separate cage for your anoles than have them all stressed and possibly diseased?
08/11/08  06:29am

 #1826809


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   Message To: ReptiGal94   In reference to Message Id: 1826789


 What shall i do

when my anoles were on their own in a cage without water they were more stressed as they were always brown the animals i keep benefit from sharing a cage eg the heat from the water causes alot of it to evaporate keeping humidity at the correct level also the frogs will eat any crickets etc that the anoles leave as they fall in the water and get eaten keepin the tank clean
08/11/08  07:58am

 #1826846


Atrax27407
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1826809


 What shall i do

Since you have your mind made up to continue that unhealthy setup, I hope your Anoles last longer than a year. Don’t mix species! The environment you create is not good for either.



08/11/08  09:52am

 #1826850


ReptiGal94
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1826809


 What shall i do

Brown does NOT mean they are stressed.They may not show it but being with a different species is going to kill them.That’s why anoles live in america and AFRICAN clawed frogs live in Africa.Totally different regions,habitats,temps, everything.Look, all that matters is that they’re NOT supposed to be together.
08/11/08  09:55am

 #1826954


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   Message To: ReptiGal94   In reference to Message Id: 1826850


 What shall i do

the only scenario of mixing species that i could see to be reasonable is if it truly simulated the wild. Not just any cage sizing could do (Zoo Cage Sizes rather than a 10 gallon). Also, the animals would have to share the same local geographic range (Same town....in this case they are not even in the same continent). Lastly, they would have to have similar requirements. There would be no problem for someone to create a giant custom cage with something like terrestrial skinks and toads with anoles are living in the trees and vines above. If the cage isnt that extreme, i have no problem mixing different species. (My anoles seem to get along pretty well with my bamboo plants!!)
08/11/08  11:59am

 #1827183


Atrax27407
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   Message To: Coolguy132435   In reference to Message Id: 1826954


 What shall i do

Plants are not the same as sharing with another animal (each of which has its own specific parasite load).

You also have to take into consideration the ultimate size of the species involved. Although they share the same range, a large skink may very well intimidate an Anole.

In this case, how would a female Anole lay and properly bury its eggs? They don’t swim well and certainly aren’t aquatic.

Some folks think that because they have an Anole that lived to the "ripe old age of 2" they have done something successfully. Not true! Anoles usually live 4-6 years in captivity as an average. Anything less is because of a problem - usually environmental in nature (like a flooded enclosure). For someone to keep Anoles in those conditions is really unbelieveable and cruel.
08/11/08  03:17pm

 #1827191


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   Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1827183


 What shall i do

well one of the eggs hatched today and the hatchling is perfectly healthy also anoles live in trees so why would it matter if water was beneath them
08/11/08  03:24pm

 #1827198


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   Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1827183


 What shall i do

by the way my anole cage is zoo sized 6 ft long 4 ft wide and 6 ft high also i have had green anoles in there before and they lived for 5 and a half years
08/11/08  03:29pm

 #1827569


Coolguy132435
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1827198


 What shall i do

Atrax....i am aware that plants and animals are not the same, it was a joke that i saw on a different forum on a debate about mixing species....the only skink that lives anywhere near my old home where anoles lived was the southern coal skink(smaller than an anole)
08/11/08  08:50pm

 #1827715


Atrax27407
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   Message To: Coolguy132435   In reference to Message Id: 1827569


 What shall i do

Blue-Lines Skinks and Anoles co-inhabit some of the same rage and the Skins are big enough to do some serious damage to the Anoles. I know your comment was tongue-in-cheek but a lot of folks don’t.

Just consider that this guy is trying to justify what he is doing by now "inventing" environmental conditions.
08/11/08  10:43pm

 #1827835


ReptiGal94
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   Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1827715


 What shall i do

While I feel sad for the anoles, it’s obvious that this person is not going to listen to a word anyone says and continue mixing species.Hopefully he will learn soon.
It doesn’t matter how large your cage is in this case.One species is native to Africa and another is native to America.They don’t co-exist in the wild and shouldn’t in captivity, even if the anoles don’t go on the bottom of the cage.You’re ensuring your pet’s death.There shouldn’t be any more reason than that.
08/12/08  12:29am

 #1828000


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   Message To: ReptiGal94   In reference to Message Id: 1827835


 What shall i do

how is it ensuring my pets death
08/12/08  05:15am

 #1828079


ReptiGal94
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1828000


 What shall i do

Stress,parasites,disease.There’s many things that could kill your pet if you mix species.We’ve already said all of them in previous posts.
08/12/08  08:49am

 #1828309


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   Message To: ReptiGal94   In reference to Message Id: 1828079


 What shall i do

it didnt happen to my last anoles and nothing has happened to these anoles
08/12/08  12:31pm

 #1828332


Atrax27407
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   Message To: Animal crazy   In reference to Message Id: 1828309


 What shall i do

You’ve had them a whole three months! To be honest, I have doubts as to the accuracy of the informtion that you have provided so far. Any advice will not be taken since you obviously have your mind made up on what environment you intend to provide for your Anoles. There is no point in continuing and dialog. Good luck.
08/12/08  12:55pm

 #1861922


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   Message To: Atrax27407   In reference to Message Id: 1828332


 What shall i do

that argument was hilarious the responder did not answer the question
09/17/08  05:54pm

 #1862108


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   Message To: Melonhead   In reference to Message Id: 1861922


 What shall i do

btw i dont think anoles inhabit AFRICA.


i hate dumb people.
09/17/08  08:46pm

 #1867092


Spellbinder
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   Message To: Ganababy91   In reference to Message Id: 1862108


 What shall i do

Oddly enough I don’t think that just because one animal comes from Africa and one from America means that they can’t live together. Come on now ppl cats and dogs don’t live together in the wild but they both due just fine together in my home. ^.^ I think that if the cage is large enough and all the animals are kept healthy * no outside parasites, fungis, ect * then they will all be just fine.
09/24/08  12:34am

 #1867189


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   Message To: Spellbinder   In reference to Message Id: 1867092


 What shall i do

Can the OP post some enclosure pics please?
09/24/08  07:56am

 #1867457


Coolguy132435
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   Message To: Crablegs   In reference to Message Id: 1867189


 What shall i do

spellbinder,

thats no true. dogs and cats are a lot different than reptiles when it comes to care and requirements.
09/24/08  02:40pm


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