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 #1957813


LAZYGUY123
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 Take a look at this

Has anyone seen this yet?? What do you think?



Seen this on the kingsnake photo gallery



02/23/09  02:34pm

 #1957818


The_2nd_baseman
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  Message To: LAZYGUY123   In reference to Message Id: 1957813


 Take a look at this

That may be interesting to see.I have a ??? could they have baby’s together,or does anyone know 100%.



02/23/09  02:46pm

 #1957823


LAZYGUY123
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  Message To: The_2nd_baseman   In reference to Message Id: 1957818


 Take a look at this

I don’t think anyone really can say for sure. I mean they have bred carpet pythons with ballpythons and bp’s with womas so who knows? Would be very interesting.



02/23/09  02:54pm

 #1957835


DJDeron
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  Message To: LAZYGUY123   In reference to Message Id: 1957823


 Take a look at this

What a shame to mess up perfectly good anaconda offspring with genes from a boa constrictor.

Seriously though, I have no idea if that would actually work breeding those two. Somebody was probably trying for a shortcut to producing albino anacondas.



02/23/09  03:21pm

 #1957837


LAZYGUY123
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1957835


 Take a look at this

Right. I don’t know. I’m not always a huge fan of crossing but it would be interesting.



02/23/09  03:24pm

 #1957905


LAZYGUY123
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  Message To: LAZYGUY123   In reference to Message Id: 1957837


 Take a look at this

I was talking to a buddy and he said it has been done. Called in a boa-con?????



02/23/09  06:03pm

 #1958035


BMC
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  Message To: LAZYGUY123   In reference to Message Id: 1957813


 Take a look at this

lazyguy, i know you dont really deal with redtails but i was wondering if it would be a good idea to house my 2 baby redtails with my 4 footer, the 4footer is in a 4ft boaphile cage. do you think it would work? the babies i rescued from a petco, they were in bad shape.



02/23/09  09:09pm

 #1958166


Ironman8989
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  Message To: BMC   In reference to Message Id: 1958035


 Take a look at this

one thing you guys do know anacondas are the biggest BOA out there, two what i have learned, you never house more than two snakes together, your really not even supposed too house two snakes but people do and it seems to work. but i would not have more than two living long term in one cage.



02/24/09  12:30am

 #1958176


BMC
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  Message To: Ironman8989   In reference to Message Id: 1958166


 Take a look at this

yeah, i am just gonna keep the 2 babies housed together,they were together when i rescued them.



02/24/09  01:06am

 #1958261


Goodeyesniper75
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  Message To: BMC   In reference to Message Id: 1958176


 Take a look at this

the only ones i or anyone that i know have kept together were usually young. and really only red tails and balls. my friend has 2 balls that have been together for 3-4 years but he has had to take them out befor because the fight a little sometimes.



02/24/09  08:17am

 #1958294


LAZYGUY123
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  Message To: Goodeyesniper75   In reference to Message Id: 1958261


 Take a look at this

Ya I usually don’t house anything together and only for short periods of time. Sometimes when it gets really really cold I will put two together and double there heat to keep them warm but thats usually it. I have seen many people house lots of burms, retics, balls, and redtails together though.



02/24/09  10:21am

 #1958298


Goodeyesniper75
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  Message To: LAZYGUY123   In reference to Message Id: 1958294


 Take a look at this

i would understand if you had a large enclosure etc room sized that i may consider putting 2 in a room but i have herd enough stories of what 2 8’+ snakes can do to each other in seconds if they wanted.



02/24/09  10:44am

 #1958662


Croc Attack
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  Message To: Goodeyesniper75   In reference to Message Id: 1958298


 Take a look at this

If they did produce offspring I wonder if they would have the size of a conda but the temperment of a boa that would be nice, you would have the biggest gentlest snake out there.



02/24/09  08:59pm

 #2002130


Doug2
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  Message To: Croc Attack   In reference to Message Id: 1958662


 Take a look at this

Did anything happen?



05/10/09  10:01pm

 #2002205


Nelson jacobson
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  Message To: Doug2   In reference to Message Id: 2002130


 Take a look at this

congrats laZYguy. i hope she proves out. plz update.



05/11/09  01:55am

 #2003715


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  Message To: Nelson jacobson   In reference to Message Id: 2002205


 Take a look at this

those aren’t lazyguy’s snakes... I am not saying for sure it can happen but I really don’t see why not. I mean if they can cross a burmese python with a ball python then i think this should be possible too. anyone else agree?



05/13/09  10:53am

 #2003769


Scimma
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  Message To: Dumerilsboafan   In reference to Message Id: 2003715


 Take a look at this

I have got to agree with that. I mean they are crossing all kinds of python morphs, retics and burmese are the first to pop in my head, I wouldn’t see why it wouldn’t work, I mean if I have researched correctly the primary concern with the python cross breeding is whether or not the F1’s are able to reproduce, I read an article about the F1’s have birth deformity’s and the ones that emerged healthy were infertile, or passed slugs.
but who knows??



05/13/09  01:21pm

 #2005111


Ih8venomiods
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  Message To: The_2nd_baseman   In reference to Message Id: 1957818


 Take a look at this

Its a good possibiltiy, because the are both mempers of the boa family



05/15/09  01:23pm

 #2005112


Ih8venomiods
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  Message To: The_2nd_baseman   In reference to Message Id: 1957818


 Take a look at this

Its a good possibility, because the are both members of the boa family



05/15/09  01:24pm

 #2007184


Jpreptilescustomexot
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  Message To: LAZYGUY123   In reference to Message Id: 1957813


 Take a look at this

does anyone know if this breeding took???? and if so, what was the outcome?????



05/18/09  05:48pm

 #2007238


SoLA
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  Message To: Jpreptilescustomexot   In reference to Message Id: 2007184


 Take a look at this

Missed this thread when it first came up. I would absolutely not be surprised if these two snakes were able to produce babies. And just because these two individuals do not have babies, it does not mean the two species can not be crossed.

I would almost not be surprised if a boa and a python could be crossed.



05/18/09  07:27pm

 #2015152


JB S
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  Message To: SoLA   In reference to Message Id: 2007238


 Take a look at this

I really missed when this was being discussed, but figured I’d offer my opinion anyway. I really dont think these two would produce any offspring. The various cross breeds that were refered to in previous posts such as burmese/retic are accomplished since they are closely related. the RTB and anaconda are distantly related. It would be more likely to produce offspring crossing an anaconda with something it is genetically more closely related to, a Rainbow boa. If that could happen, imagine the beautiful babies??? Picture a yellow anaconda with a brazilian rainbow!



06/02/09  12:56pm

 #2016327


Doug2
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  Message To: JB S   In reference to Message Id: 2015152


 Take a look at this

There are rumors that I have heard of that cross being done and some claim it exist bujt there is no proof. I believe it has been done already



06/04/09  02:15pm

 #2016997


SoLA
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  Message To: Doug2   In reference to Message Id: 2016327


 Take a look at this

A woma and a ball python are not all that close, and they even live on opposite ends of the world.

Like I said, I would not be that surprised if you cross a boa constrictor and a ball python. The differences in these snakes is not that significant, and you can certainly trace suspected common ancestors back not too far.



06/05/09  09:33pm

 #2020402


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  Message To: SoLA   In reference to Message Id: 2016997


 Take a look at this

I don’t think that a boa and python could ever be crossed, the only reason why is beacuase Boas give live birth and pythons lay eggs... that being said with science these days who knows!

Just my two cents... Also I would be interested in seeing the result of this whole ordeal.

Rob



06/11/09  02:48pm

 #2020574


SoLA
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  Message To: Robchops   In reference to Message Id: 2020402


 Take a look at this

You have to remember there is very little difference between a lot of live bearing snakes and egg laying snakes. The only part that is problematic with the pythons to the boas is the eggs are essentially "floating" free in the body when they are developing and the egg bodies are calcifying in the pythons, and the boas have a direct connection with mom. But I would not be overly shocked if a male ball python was able to fertilize a female boa, it would not find a way to develop. With a lecithotrophic snake, there really isn’t too much difference with an oviparous snake. I could honestly see this kind of cross happening just as easily as lecithotrophic species bred to a placentotrophic species.



06/11/09  07:35pm

 #2029554


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  Message To: LAZYGUY123   In reference to Message Id: 1957813


 Take a look at this

hey lazyguy123 how do i list trades or sales on here?



06/26/09  10:23pm

 #2029592


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  Message To: Billysnakes   In reference to Message Id: 2029554


 Take a look at this

but boas and pythons are in completely different families. its not just the egg laying vs live bearing thing. they are as related to each other as they are to coulubrids.



06/26/09  11:35pm

 #2029603


SoLA
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  Message To: Froggymadnes   In reference to Message Id: 2029592


 Take a look at this

well, they are different families now, but werent always thought to be all that different. Things can always change on how different we find things to be from each other. And as for colubrids, they are just a mess mass of snakes that dont fit easily into one group that is already named so there are colubrids more closely related to elapids or pythons than they are to other colubrids.



06/27/09  12:15am

 #2034900


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  Message To: SoLA   In reference to Message Id: 2029603


 Take a look at this

I once saw (on some website that i lost track of) a hybrid between those caught from the wild. I have no idea if it was true. The snake had a faded yellowish color and some irregular spots on the sides.



07/06/09  01:12pm
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