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 #1932604


Yemanja
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 My axanthic yellow



Hope you like him as much as I do. He’s got a same morph wife of many years too, will find a good photo of her.



01/15/09  08:37am

 #1932643


LAZYGUY123
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1932604


 My axanthic yellow

Very cool. I have been looking for one like that for some time. Congrats on him. Looking forward to seeing some pics of her.



01/15/09  10:01am

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Rebelyell83
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  Message To: LAZYGUY123   In reference to Message Id: 1932643


 My axanthic yellow

wow,i am lovin that,do they "brown"out like most axanthics,or do they keep the silver/white color?



01/15/09  11:44am

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DJDeron
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1932604


 My axanthic yellow

Awesome!



01/15/09  04:41pm

 #1933096


Snakebite4
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1932841


 My axanthic yellow

ooo what experiement are you gonna try?



01/15/09  09:46pm

 #1933239


Yemanja
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  Message To: Snakebite4   In reference to Message Id: 1933096


 My axanthic yellow

Hi guys, thank you for lovely coments, I am very proud of my darlings. Feel very lucky that I by some miracle got hold of them. They are about 8 years old, previous owners always kept them together so I do aswell, whatever is said about cohabiting, I really believe they are very fond of each other.

They have a few brownish spots here and there but mainly they are pretty much grey which under good light looks beautiful silver and under flash light dissapears into this white background. Id personally say they look stunning to me :)

They are very well mannered, in my experience the male is a complete pussycat, the female is a bit more jumpy, but they both let me stroke them in their tank. I do not take them out much, clean/feed them in the tank and do everything around them. But I would like to be able to handle them much more, even do things like take them out for a swim in a pool etc, but need to build up trust and learn. These are my first condas, had them for a few months now. I want to build them bigger, nicer tank, even though this one is a pretty good one of a standard size.

Some of these pics have been taken during cleaning out the tank, therefore the lack of substrate etc. Usually they have loads of substrate and they used to have a small hide together with the clear water tub you can see in the photo. Now I got them an even bigger water tub they can have a little swim in but that left no space for a hide. One day I want them to have all the comforts they can dream off :)

If anybody had good set of anaconda DIY tank instructions and photos, I would be very grateful for your help. Have been searching the net but havent found anything coherent yet.

Also, I would like to attempt to breed them although its a good question why this hasn’t been done so far yet. I know from this forum that you are rather experienced with anacondas - would you be able to give me any good tips on how to encourage them to breed? When I build the 2nd tank, will separate them for a while and then, hoping to renew their interest in each other by putting them together. Beyond that, its a mystery to me why they are not interested unless they are infertile.

They make great pets though and they are very precious to me I must say. Their "intelligence" astounds me - its almost like we can talk...errr...without words of course :)











01/16/09  08:51am

 #1933249


DJDeron
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1933239


 My axanthic yellow

You definitely need to breed those beauties so you can share their strain with the rest of us! You will need to separate them, fatten them up, and then drop their temps some during the late fall to entice breeding activity. Yellows are already breeding this time of year so you’ll need to be looking to prime them for next year.

Also, are you positive you have a pair? Seems they would have engaged in some breeding type activity at some point if they have been together for as many years as you say. Check the spurs. The male should have large, very obvious spurs while the female will basically have an indentation where the smaller spurs have withdrawn.



01/16/09  09:11am

 #1933252


DJDeron
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1933249


 My axanthic yellow

I just looked at your pics again. Boy that top pic (where the one is laying on the other one) sure is reminiscent of mating type activity. Males will "hug" the females this way to try and entice them to give it up. It might not be that hard to get them going. Has the mid section of the girl swollen up at all that might indicate ovulation?



01/16/09  09:20am

 #1933328


Yemanja
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1933252


 My axanthic yellow

Dear DJDeron I wish :) No, I dont think theyve been upto any mischief. They crawl over each other like often. Yes, he does have spurs, I saw them clearly on his shed skin, also they both do look typical for their sex. I also feel I do need to get them going for the world, and would do with some help at that :))) Where I live, Im not exactly surrounded by anaconda specialists, so its upto me and internet. The previous owners have gone abroad, dissapeared in some jungles, so its my job now.

Really gratefull for peoples suggestions on the matter. Thank you for the encouraging feedback :)



01/16/09  11:40am

 #1933342


DJDeron
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1933328


 My axanthic yellow

We’ll be happy to help.



01/16/09  12:14pm

 #1935130


Yemanja
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1933342


 My axanthic yellow

Hi DJD, your enthusiasm is infectious! I would really be grateful for help because I feel I have been entrusted with a special project and want to make most of it.

By the way, have just come across the picture of you and your gator - wow, lovely!!! You say s/he(?) was a complete baby, from the look of it it seems to mean - very friendly?? :) To have a croc is my dream which will probably always remain just a fantasy but I do adore them. So do they get tame?

Was wondering, about the mating season for yellows. I believe I read in various sources that that can last till spring. I thought that if I build the 2nd tank soon and separate them they might still get a chance this spring. Do you think its too late this year?



01/19/09  04:04pm

 #1935384


DJDeron
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1935130


 My axanthic yellow

Most of the yellows actively seem to breed November through January. You’ll always have some early or later takers though. If it were just plain ole’ yellows, I might still try them this year, but in your case I think I would focus on prepping for next year since you have such a special pair.

I am actually working on my own anaconda information website to be called AwesomeAnacondas.com. It is still in the research and desgin phase so it’s going to be a little while before it’s up and running.

To answer your other question...yes, my gator was completely trustworthy and not at all aggressive. I wouldn’t have wanted to make a stupid feeding error with him, but otherwise he was a total baby. This is really not that unheard of with american alligators born and raised in captivity when given the proper care and handling. Crocs on the other hand are notoriously untrustworthy and usually down right nasty. Caiman fall somewhere in between. I actually had a young Nile Crocodile for few years and no matter what I did or how much I worked with him he was a monster. I really do believe he wanted to kill me.

Anyway, my experience with crocodilians was mostly because of rescue situations and that definitely taught me something. These animals are not good pets and very few individuals can or will follow through with what is needed to maintain specimens into adulthood. I really do not advocate anyone but the most dedicated advanced herper owning crocodilians. It’s just unfair to the animals and I’ve seen it first hand way too much here in the States. Fantasizing about having one and admiring them for the magnificent creatures they are is quite alright however!



01/19/09  09:42pm

 #1935598


Yemanja
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1935384


 My axanthic yellow

Hi DJD, thanks for the quick reply :) Ok, I will take your advice on waiting till the next year. Its worth getting it all just right. I also agree that they need fattening up, the female definitely, she has not eaten as much as I hoped she would.

Would you be able to point me to anywhere with usefull info with DIY instructions for an anaconda tank? I have seen some tips here and there but still havent found anything satisfactory. Many thanks!

Also, one thing that concerns me is knowing what to look out for should they be ill. I do know about signs for mouth rot, mites etc nevertheless it would be reassuring if I could find a list of some sort somewhere, of what are the things that can go wrong with condas and what would be the symptoms.

One thing that I have noticed to come and go a couple of times on both of my snakes was a pink tinge to their belly. I thought it might be something to do with their reptile bark substrate and soon it dissapeared. But recently I saw it mentioned elsewhere in connection to temperatures. Have you ever come across it?

Will an anaconda eat at all if ill? Can it be said that if they eat ok that they are definitely healthy? What sort of behaviour do you tend to watch out for?

Im looking forward to your new website, will keep an eye open for your announcement.

Interesting about your gator/crocs, and yes, I agree, for me it will just remain a fantasy. Scary about your Nile Croc!



01/20/09  08:00am

 #1936221


DJDeron
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1935598


 My axanthic yellow

Man I wish my site was ready because most of what you are asking will eventually be on there.

Anyway, I’ll try to give you some short answers...

-No DYI enclosure pages really come to mind. I’d try searching for different cage manufacturers and take a look at their construction techniques to see what you can do similar. The main thing is being escape proof and able to hold the heat and humidity levels correctly.

-If you are maintaining the snakes at the correct temps (about 78 to 80 deg. F, cool side - 86 to 90 deg. F, warm side), proper humidity (60-70%), and they are eating well, then I wouldn’t be too worried about them getting sick. Keeping cages clean, water fresh, and watching for and treating mites are standard preventative care. Water blisters can occur if allowed to soak for long periods of time, especially in soiled water. Signs are obvious - blisters or bumps. Respiratory infections can occur if proper temps and humidity are not kept. Usual signs are wheezing, bubbly mucous around mouth, and gaping of the mouth when breathing. Overall though, anacondas are actually pretty hardy captives as long as the basic requirements are met and maintained.

-Most snakes, including anacondas, will change color somewhat in response to temperatures, shed cycles, age, etc. My yellows and my greens are very sensitive to temperature as far as their color goes. My yellows will be a bright, light yellow in the enclosure when toasty warm, and within a few minutes of pulling them out of the cage and them cooling some, will turn almost brownish. The pink coloration you are seeing is very common on snakes with light colored bellies as they turn opaque and get ready to shed.

-Anacondas, especially if primed for breeding, can go on and off feed, sometimes for extended periods, so that would not be a real good indicator of health. This is also why it’s important for your snakes to have good weight when attempting to breed. My male has eaten nothing for almost three months. All he is interested in are my girls. He is a little skinny right now but healthy none the less. As a matter of fact, he is mating with one of my females at this very moment. Nothing like a little snake porno at six in the morning!

Here is a link to the yellow care sheet on Ben Renick’s website. The info is very good and very similar to what my caresheet would look like.

http://benrenick.com/care_yellow_anaconda.pdf



01/21/09  05:34am

 #1936912


Yemanja
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1936221


 My axanthic yellow

Hi DJD. You are a gold mine - and so would be your website!!! I must say, Id just love to find such a website - purely with info on anacondas! As far as I can see, there isn’t one like that. That would be a fantastic service - yes, as you say, there could be so much valuable information that could go there!

Thank you for everything you have written here so far. Some of that stuff I actually haven’t seen anywhere before, ie about the colour changes in anacondas related to temperatures and the pink bellies prior to shedding. I must say you put my mind to rest because I have been somewhat concerned about it recently as I saw it again on Yemanja who just shed.

The reason I asked about feeding being a sign of health was I offered her some food the day after she shed, and she didnt take it. I remember reading that snake will usually be hungry and ready for food just after the shed, so this again concerns me. Nevertheless, yesterday my vet said this is not necessarily the case and its normal for a snake not being interesting in food for about a week after shed. A little while before she went blue she eat loads.

My other question is about the temps. What you mentioned I suppose are the "summer" temps, so do you lower them for winter period and to what?

I have done my research, ie pulled down caresheets from various sources, incl. Ben Rennick, I also have the only Anaconda book I could find - Anacondas - (Professional Breeders Series) (Hardcover)
by Hans Bisplinghof (Author), Henry Bellosa (Author). I also talked to several reptile shop keepers and a some anaconda owners.

But the thing is, the information is not always that consistent, and anyway, I think the more I learn the better.

Lucky you for having snake porn :) I want some too :))) I compensated by watching Bens little dvd on youtube on yellows breeding and was rather amused to see the little wiggly spurs moving about like that for the first time. I was impressed when I saw them on Ogum’s shed skin but had no idea they wiggle about so much - very impressive, the girl certainly must feel tickled :) Although I have learnt before that they are, anatomically speaking, actually remains of limbs (wow, you learn something every day!!!) so that makes sense, but its weird :)

Bytheway, the information on breeding yellows is even more sparse than other info. So any special tips - much appreciated!

DJD, are you open to chatting on the phone? If yes, let me know - all this typing is fun but Id be very happy to talk, too. Have a good day!



01/22/09  03:24am

 #1937112


DJDeron
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1936912


 My axanthic yellow

Well, me being a "goldmine" might be a stretch, but I try to help out when I can. My degree in media journalism and past work as a teacher/presenter I think helps me relay information a little better than some others might. I am definitely an avid researcher of information on any species I choose to keep and one of those people who pays close attention to detail. Luckily, I also seem to retain facts pretty well. Really I am just a fellow herper who has had many years of general experience with many different reptiles species, including some with anacondas.

While I may not have as much hands on experience as some of the captive anaconda pioneers like Kelly, Jud, Pete, or Ben, I have waded through most of the available information, including theirs, and learned what is the trustworthy data. Believe it or not, when I chose to pursue my little anaconda project, I took the time to read every single post, on every single forum, and every single web page I could find that mentions the word anaconda. I have the book you mentioned and many other pieces of literature and videos I have found with anaconda info in them. In a nutshell, by combining the knowledge I have learned through other’s work with anacondas and my own personal experiences with anacondas and literally hundreds of other reptiles, I feel I do, in fact, have a firm grasp of proper anaconda husbandry. My current animals are all doing extremely well because of this.

What I hope to do with my website is to make all that I have learned about anacondas readily available to interested keepers in one online location. Like you say, while there are a couple good breeder websites, there really is no "all encompassing information center" on anacondas. You really have to wade through all the different info available and make your own evaluation as to what is right. A lot of people don’t want to do all that and in the end, the animals suffer for it. Essentially, I have done the information "footwork" for anyone interested in keeping anacondas. My goal is to bring all this information together and present it in such a way that anyone that chooses to keep an anaconda will have the correct info right at their fingertips. As my project continues, I will be able to add even further bits of personal experience into the mix. I also try to stay in contact with some of the above mentioned breeders as they are the true "gurus". They just might not have the time or the media skills to present the info like I do (they’re too busy breeding and raising their snakes!). In the end, it’s all about the well being of everyone’s animals and eventually the production of high quality captive bred young.

If you wish to contact me directly feel free to email me at "". I can give you my personal phone number from there if you wish to call.



01/22/09  12:35pm

 #1937113


DJDeron
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1937112


 My axanthic yellow

Not sure why it deleted my email address at the bottom of the post, we’ll try it again.....



01/22/09  12:40pm

 #1937115


DJDeron
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  Message To: DJDeron   In reference to Message Id: 1937113


 My axanthic yellow

Nope. I must being doing something wrong. I’ll just type it out...

awesomeanacondas "at" earthlink "dot" net.



01/22/09  12:46pm

 #1937337


Extinction
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1932604


 My axanthic yellow

beautiful......



01/22/09  06:42pm

 #1937661


Yemanja
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  Message To: Extinction   In reference to Message Id: 1937337


 My axanthic yellow

Thank you Extinction for your praise:) Its good to know that these condas could prove very popular:)

DJD, I emailed you briefly and thanks again for your reply. Just quickly now as Im busy (doing art college). Fair enough about what you say abt your experience but I think its very true that what also makes a difference is how one presents the information. Sure I have been surfing the forums and all kinds of webs too ever since I discovered these condas on the internet for sale which was end of May last year. It took me 3 months before I made the responsible decision that I could take care of them and had pretty much all the support I needed to take this project on. Still can’t quite believe that they waited for me all these 3 months and nobody snatched them up from under my nose but hey, I guess some things are just meant to be. As I say, these condas are one of the best things that ever happened to me, I am really crazy about them:))) I have other snakes too but I did take the condas on as a bit of a learning curve. Still, Im amazed how simple and easy they actually are to look after. I also only took them on under the clarity that they are not nasty. I wouldn’t want to have to deal with an agressive animal. Im hoping that that increases the possibility that their babies will have also more of a tendency to become more tame.

Anyway, must get back to my work, just really want to echo such a website would be much appreciated, will get back to this post later.



01/23/09  04:12am

 #2039415


Thejaxonator
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  Message To: Yemanja   In reference to Message Id: 1937661


 My axanthic yellow

bump



07/14/09  09:31pm

 #2039485


SoLA
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  Message To: Thejaxonator   In reference to Message Id: 2039415


 My axanthic yellow

Thats pretty dang cool looking.



07/14/09  11:09pm


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