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Drepop View Profile |
30ft. anacondas?
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| 06/29/08 11:34pm |
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Asira View Profile |
Message To: Drepop In reference to Message Id: 1778205 30ft. anacondas?
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| 06/30/08 12:11am |
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Asira View Profile |
Message To: Asira In reference to Message Id: 1778236
An anaconda that ate a full-grown man
once they cut open the snake...
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| 06/30/08 12:21am |
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GoodNPlenty View Profile |
Message To: Asira In reference to Message Id: 1778243 30ft. anacondas?
Rumors circulated widely when that first came out that the 2 pics are independent of one another and that the first one was a wild pig of some kind that was eaten. Real, fake... I’m no photo expert so I dont know. ~GNP |
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| 06/30/08 12:31am |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: Asira In reference to Message Id: 1778243 30ft. anacondas?
Heres the largest green I have ever seen. Its 25ft ( well thats what they say ) http://you tube.com/watch?v=qJ0smYH-V7E ( take the space out between you and tube ) I find it hard to see 20+ft burms I have only seen one. As for African rocks the biggest iv’e seen was a 16ft, But I think some Scrub pythons are capable to reach that 20ft mark. |
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| 06/30/08 08:52am |
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JimmyDavid View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1778391 30ft. anacondas?
http://you tube.com/watch?v=R5NuId56ux0 |
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| 06/30/08 03:07pm |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: JimmyDavid In reference to Message Id: 1778712 30ft. anacondas?
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| 06/30/08 10:35pm |
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Reptile_dan View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1779152 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/01/08 07:34am |
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JimmyDavid View Profile |
Message To: Reptile_dan In reference to Message Id: 1779418 30ft. anacondas?
They come up with their theories and all, but they haven’t watched these giants eat enough times to realise that they coil around the dead prey when they are good to eat and start squeezing the item to better swallow it (kind of like a big piece of pizza that just needs an extra fold to fit in your mouth). In the process they will crush bones if they have to... humans are one of the most fragile boned creatures, i am sure an adult anaconda is strong enough to make a mess of our shoulders in the process and just eat... and you know they aren’t going anywhere, they’ve got all the time in the world. LOL |
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| 07/01/08 08:20am |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: JimmyDavid In reference to Message Id: 1779437 30ft. anacondas?
And many Anacondas tend to over kill their food. I know a guy whose anaconda overkills its prey fro around 90 min!!!! WOW. Thats the lomngest I heard. I allready think people think were ’’crazy’’ for haveing such big animals but I think its a passion :D Its just differnt haveing one then looking at one on tv or in the zoo. I have to agree with jimmydavid again because what he says is true the herpotoligist ( most of them ) dont have such big snakes. |
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| 07/01/08 12:12pm |
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GoodNPlenty View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1779581 30ft. anacondas?
Rocks are typically smaller than burms and Ive yet to see one over 16 feet as well. Scrub pythons reaching 20 feet? Never seen it or heard of any over 17 feet, but since I have a bit of a bias against them, I must confess I really don’t go searching for reports on them lol. As for eating... Indeed, a human would be fine prey for just about any snake over 17 feet IF it felt so inclined. By this I mean obviously that it could physically swallow you. Now if you were frozen solid or had rigor mortis, then yes this might not be the case as we are a fairly broadshouldered species (go us!). However, in between all our wonderful shoulders and chest bones there are more than a few bands of carteliage, tendons, etc. The very method by which they kill (constriction) already tells us that the ribcage and chest cavity of the victim must be collapsed. As you lose muscle tension due to ever decreasing oxygen in your blood, you cannot sustain outward pressure from your lungs, obliques(muscles along your sides) or your abs and pecs. It does not take much force at all to crack a human sternum (chest), infact people end up in serious injuries from cracked sternums during cPR rescues if there is too much force applied during the compressions. So by now the open space that is your chest cavity is roughly the size of your hips and all that remains is your arms/shoulders... Try this one at home.... Mark off on a door/wall how broad your shoulders are. Now try and touch your shoulders together from the FRONT and have someone remark. You probably cut off at least 4 inches of width and that was WITHOUT dislocating your shoulders (personal experiece says its not a fun thing). Heck, most of us have seen the vids saying anacondas can crush with X amount of pounds per square inch. The amount most people like to quote is that of the school bus on your chest. Even toning it down to a regular car, imagine what YOUR shoulders would look like if you lay on your side and someone lowered a car onto it. Ick! Whew! That was one of the more fun posts I’ve gotten to make recently! ~GNP |
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| 07/02/08 01:43am |
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JimmyDavid View Profile |
Message To: GoodNPlenty In reference to Message Id: 1780262 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/02/08 08:57am |
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Drepop View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1778391 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/02/08 11:59am |
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Drepop View Profile |
Message To: JimmyDavid In reference to Message Id: 1778712 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/02/08 12:08pm |
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JimmyDavid View Profile |
Message To: Drepop In reference to Message Id: 1780508 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/02/08 03:38pm |
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Tiffany21 View Profile |
Message To: JimmyDavid In reference to Message Id: 1780736 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/02/08 04:47pm |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: Tiffany21 In reference to Message Id: 1780814 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/02/08 08:01pm |
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The_2nd_baseman View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1780997 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/02/08 09:47pm |
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GoodNPlenty View Profile |
Message To: The_2nd_baseman In reference to Message Id: 1781080 30ft. anacondas?
I believe National Geographic has had an ongoing reward out for one, that is now up somewhere around $50k ~GNP |
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| 07/03/08 12:04am |
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JimmyDavid View Profile |
Message To: GoodNPlenty In reference to Message Id: 1781278 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/03/08 08:33am |
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Silenceafable View Profile |
Message To: JimmyDavid In reference to Message Id: 1781431 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/03/08 09:35am |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: Silenceafable In reference to Message Id: 1781485 30ft. anacondas?
And yea an anaconda could easily kill someone but who cares if it can eat you if your dead? LOL |
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| 07/03/08 01:39pm |
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GoodNPlenty View Profile |
Message To: Silenceafable In reference to Message Id: 1781485 30ft. anacondas?
As to the retic eating sideways... I’m sure I’m not the only one to see a snake let go of a food item and try again from a different position when it had trouble. I think this snake may have just decided it wasnt worth the effort in the end, but who can say for sure. I’d like to know the crushing potential of a full grown Retic or Burm for comparisson. As far as eating from the feet up.. it sounds plausible (sometimes one of my more foolish snakes will eat a rat butt first!) but it would generally mean that the human was laying on their front/back because otherwise in all likelihood the legs would be slightly splayed out meaning the snake would pick 1 or the other and end up getting nowhere once it reached the hips. ~GNP |
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| 07/03/08 09:40pm |
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Gaboon View Profile |
Message To: Reptile_dan In reference to Message Id: 1779418
Some anaconda fans insist there are some huge anacondas (40 feet-plus) living in remote areas of western Brazil, but they are almost extinct because their habitat is being destroyed. That contradicts what I have read about snakes in general: When their habitat is being destroyed, they are exposed and are easier to find than they were in their undisturbed habitat. In many cases, the record length for a snake is about 40 to 50 percent longer than the length of a large adult female. That sounds about right for the retic (large = 20 feet-plus, record = 30 feet-plus) and the indigo snake (large = 6 feet-plus, record = 8 feet-plus). Using the 50 percent factor for the anaconda, large = 18 feet and the record = 27 feet. That looks about right. If you look at the photo Asira posted of a very well fed retic, it appears that somebody failed to tell that snake how to use the “crush to fit” technique. What a snake might be able to do and what it actually does may be two different things, and there’s nothing to indicate that snakes use constriction to shape their prey to make it easier to swallow. That’s probably a good thing, at least for us. Maybe we’re lucky to have broad shoulders so more of us aren’t eaten by large constrictors. It doesn’t really matter because those snakes usually don’t start to swallow until their prey is dead. I would bet that more than one small human has been eaten by an anaconda in the wilds of South America, but the South American wilderness has never been as heavily populated as the wilds of Southeast Asia and a snake eating a human might go unreported. I have seen documented reports of retics eating humans, but not one of them ever mentioned the length of the snake. Does anyone have any information on that? |
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| 07/10/08 01:38am |
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GoodNPlenty View Profile |
Message To: Gaboon In reference to Message Id: 1789335 30ft. anacondas?
No contradiction here. Extinct by definition means harder to find, so land clearing would not necessarily indicate a find of a large snake and would likely stunt the growth of large snakes as prey items become more scarce and competition for food becomes fiercer. "In many cases, the record length for a snake is about 40 to 50 percent longer than the length of a large adult female. That sounds about right for the retic (large = 20 feet-plus, record = 30 feet-plus) and the indigo snake (large = 6 feet-plus, record = 8 feet-plus). Using the 50 percent factor for the anaconda, large = 18 feet and the record = 27 feet. That looks about right." Sounds about right to me as I believe the anaconda record is somwhere in the 27 foot range. "What a snake might be able to do and what it actually does may be two different things, and there’s nothing to indicate that snakes use constriction to shape their prey to make it easier to swallow." While it might not always happen, this does not mean that there is nothing to support it. I’m sure everyone has taken an overly large bite of food at one point and had the enjoyment of a minute or 2 of chewing to swallow it all down. Chewing here would be analogous to constriction to make ingestion easier. As far as the retic... The story I heard was that a warden in a park/refugee who saw the retic noted that the human body looked like it had been dead longer than the snake had been eating it, but I’ll have to do some browsing to double check. ~GNP ~GNP |
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| 07/10/08 01:54am |
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JimmyDavid View Profile |
Message To: GoodNPlenty In reference to Message Id: 1789342 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/10/08 02:15am |
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Zach01313 View Profile |
Message To: Drepop In reference to Message Id: 1778205 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/11/08 03:22pm |
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Zach01313 View Profile |
Message To: Tiffany21 In reference to Message Id: 1780814 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/11/08 03:28pm |
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GoodNPlenty View Profile |
Message To: Zach01313 In reference to Message Id: 1791376 30ft. anacondas?
"hmmmmm intresting i have a green anaconda passed on from my dad shes a 23 foot female named cheese i have never really thought about filming and taking pics of her but i will now" wow, at 24 feet that would be one of the longest snakes in private captivity. Bob Clark has the longest I think in "Fluffy", his female retic. "i guess you never see huge pet anacondas mainly because everyone is scared of them by the time they get around 12 feet because they are meaty snakes unlike the nice and slim burmese which people are no where near as scared of mainly because they are alot nicer then anacondas and that is why they are kept lomger and are seen more often" If a burm/conda are both the same length, yes the conda will be meatier, but burms over 12 feet are considerably heftier than snakes like retics of the same length. temperment is always different which each snake, but certainly anacondas have the reputation of being more aggressive, even if sometimes it is an undeserved image of them. "also the anaconda lives longer then the burmese python so usualy they are let go when unwanted" As far as I was aware burms typically tend to outlive greens... "my father caught my anaconda when it was a baby in the everglades so wild or unwild they are tamer then most snakes [parts removed for room] but anywho anacondas getting up to 30 ft is rare to see because mainly do experts expect to find a 35 foot anaconda when they are trying to prove they cant get that big and single handedly pull it out of a swamp and take pictures of it?" Bit of a contradiction to your statements : "unlike the nice and slim burmese which people are no where near as scared of mainly because they are alot nicer then anacondas and that is why they are kept lomger and are seen more often" And I’m fairly sure people realize they wont pull up at 25+ foot anaconda by themselves "and you never see any captive large snakes because they are usualy let go or die because people cant take care of them but when they are let go in unnatural wilderness they cant hunt for them selves an die or get sick and die" There are plenty of 14+ foot snakes in the world in private captivity. And usually when people cant handle a snake that long they usually either sell it, give it to a breeder or euthenize/shelter it. Release of snakes into a place like the everglades is a very place specific occurence since that happens to be an environment that is warm year round, provides dry/wet conditions when needed and frankly is a very good snake habitat. You wouldnt see that further north where colder weather would kill the snakes or where the landscape just doesnt have the large open acreage that the everglades can provide. ~GNP |
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| 07/11/08 06:01pm |
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JimmyDavid View Profile |
Message To: GoodNPlenty In reference to Message Id: 1791598 30ft. anacondas?
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| 07/11/08 06:56pm |
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