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Ghost_pit2001
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 Illinois gaters and laws

Well I am new here but old to the reptile world,,i was reading this forum and found a few things interesting,,,,well as far as gators in miami,,,any male over 4 feet is euthenized females are relocated,or sent to gator frams only to be used as exhibits or breed,,,know into Illinois laws,,,i also seen someone mention illinois,,it is legal to purchase alligators here but illegal to posses,,how ever all that is required is an endangered species permit which is free and fairly simple to obtain from the department of natural resources,if anyone has any other questions about illinois laws just ask,,,i know a little,,,and most of the gators confinscated in illinois are sent to Scott Ballard or "other qualified individuales,,i could go on and on about these people but this isnt the place...well nice being part of your group.



03/19/06  04:57pm

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  Message To: Ghost_pit2001   In reference to Message Id: 699973


 Illinois gaters and laws

Actually thats something they have yet to change but need to..Alligators were removed off the Endangered species List in the 1960’s or 1970’s I dont remember the exact law. I was one of the ones mentioning IL because I Kept My Gators up there when I lived up there...

It isnt an Endagered species permit for owning Gators, Gators themself are considered "Exotics" which is a different Ballgame in itsself. We also mentioned WI a time or two because they are illegal to purchase or Possess over there.

Welcome to our own lil corner of Dysfunction heh



03/19/06  06:28pm

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Rockdad
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  Message To: CelticTigeress   In reference to Message Id: 700110


 Illinois gaters and laws

Do you have any law info for neighboring Indiana? Ive kept smaller gators for yrs with the knowledge of 2 Conservation Officers but never did have a state permit. Ive made efforts to get them to help me rectify this but so far it hasn’t happened. Not only for the gators but I wanted them out for our skunk too. I’m installing a new 20’x 30’ gator pond in the yard thats bound to draw attention and I dont want to risk making waves so to speak.



05/24/06  12:53pm

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Razeraze
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  Message To: Ghost_pit2001   In reference to Message Id: 699973


 Illinois gaters and laws

i have spoken with scott ballard. he said the permit is not easily obtained and that you must have a permit to purchase and the person selling to you must have a valid permit also. i spoke with him in depth about this.

celtic gators are still protected federaly under a similarity law because they look like the endangerd american croc.

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As far as private individuals go, any crocodilian species that is
federally listed by the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service as endangered,
threatened, or similarity of appearance to, requires an Illinois
endangered/threatened species possession permit. This permit is
required BEFORE the animal is obtained. Interested parties must get an
application for said permit, fill it out, mail back to Springfield, and
then are only legal to get that animal AFTER the permit has been
approved and is back in the hands of the applicant. This requirement
goes for any animal species that is federally listed by the U.S. Fish &
Wildlife Service as endangered, threatened, or similarity of appearance
to. Here is a link to the website of that inclusive list:

http://ecos.fws.gov/tess_public/SpeciesReport.do?dsource=animals

Even though crocodilians do not naturally occur in Illinois, some are on
this U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service list due to similarity of appearance
to. Since they are on that list, an Illinois permit is also required to
legally possess them in Illinois. This would also apply to any other
herp that is federally listed that does not occur in Illinois, such as
Indian pythons, eastern indigo snakes, San Francisco garter snakes, etc.
..

An Illinois endangered/threatened species possession permit allows for
possession only, and not for transfer or sale of that animal.
Therefore, anyone selling or transferring a state or federally listed
species would need a separate permit to do that in addition to the
possession permit. I try to discourage people from impulse buying at
swap meets that offer things like baby American alligators, because
anyone acquiring one would FIRST need the possession permit in hand to
be legal. Any vendor offering them for sale would also need a
possession permit and a permit to sell, offer for sale, or transfer
them. A lot of preparation needs to be done with paperwork and permits
to legally possess these. Unfortunately, the meticulous attention that
is needed for this does not always occur with spur-of-the-moment
decision making at an animal swap meet.
scott ballard



05/24/06  01:17pm

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Al owens
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  Message To: Ghost_pit2001   In reference to Message Id: 699973


 Illinois gaters and laws

i worked with gator control in fl. no gator under 6 ft is killed, it is up to the agent that catches it what to do with it, gators are not legal to keep in IL, there are no permits you can get to keep them there,
gators in fl are not sent to farms or exhibits, the skin is 25.00 per foot, 7.00 lb for meat, and the head is mounted and sold, the state gets a tax fee on each caught, i sell a lot to people in IL, they come to IN and buy them, they make great pets, i get a lot of the illegal ones taken, they send them to my vet in IN, and he sends them to me,



05/26/08  03:26pm


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